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Old 09-21-2005, 09:42 PM
juanez juanez is offline
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Default Re: Do you tip when you\'re down?

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You're overestimating wages, I think. It's more like earning $10 an hour instead of $3, or $12 instead of $6.

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Our dealers make $4.00 per hour and keep all tokes, minus taxes of course.
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Old 09-21-2005, 11:38 PM
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Hey, it's the Steve Buscemi character from Reservoir Dogs! I hope your next waiter spits in your food.

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This is not about cheapness, it is about spirituality. I am talking about not tipping as a meditative discipline, as a way to center oneself around a singularity. For some people, that singularity can be an idea or a syllable of sound. For me it is the unspeaking silence after I stiff a dealer and he hesitates a little before dealing the next hand, and the other players look at me speechless. I use this time to focus on my energy and achieve oneness with the pot being pushed in my direction.
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Old 09-22-2005, 04:04 AM
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Default Re: Do you tip when you\'re down?

every pot that is pushed to me, regardless of any other factor(besides performance), will result in the dealer recieiving a buck.

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Old 09-22-2005, 04:49 AM
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I tip every pot regardless of my overall session results, my mood, the weather, or other unrelated factors.

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Old 09-22-2005, 06:51 AM
Jim Morgan Jim Morgan is offline
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Default Re: Do you tip when you\'re down?

I approach tipping from a different point of view than many folks. I consider my overall cost of playing poker when deciding what to tip. I do not make a distinction between money that goes to the house and money that goes to the dealer. The only control I have over my expenses is through the way I tip or by simply choosing not to play.

When the rake is high in comparison to the limit or in comparison to what I deem a fair cost, I greatly reduce or even simply eliminate tipping.

The Oaks club has decided they cannot live with $4 drop in their 4/8 O8 game. I really feel no obligation to shell out a tip in addition to a $5 drop. In my way of thinking, the casino is stealing my $1 toke and expecting me to happily replace it with another.

Nor do I tip in 3/6 holdem games with a $4 drop. Again, the rake is too high for the game. I will tip in 6/12 or higher or in a 4/8 game with only a 4$ drop, but except for Omaha, which is hard to find in higher limits here in the Bay Area, I will only stay below 6/12 while waiting for a seat in the higher game.

I find no merit in the argument that a dealer relies on tips for his or her living. Dealing can be a tough job, but it pays very well compared to the skill required. If people tipped less, dealers could always look for better work. The only reason I tip at all is due to the social custom. The custom here is that players have 2 costs: The rake and tipping the dealer. However, when a casino chooses to over-rake my pots, I will compensate by tipping far less often. The "villan" here is not me, 'the stiff". The villian is the casino for its greed. The money going into the rake is a passive thing and people don't think of it in the same way they think of tipping, even though my cost to play is identical if I tip 1$ and have a 3$ drop vs. having a 4$ drop with no tip.

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Old 09-22-2005, 10:06 AM
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I tip every hand I win.
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Old 09-22-2005, 11:16 AM
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So if the casino were to drop thier rake, you would then throw in $2 bucks because of the casino's "generosity"?
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Old 09-22-2005, 05:20 PM
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$1 for an average sized pot.

$1 for a monster pot.

$1 for stealing the blinds.

Occasional random $1 tips for very good service.
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Old 09-22-2005, 06:23 PM
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i dont if im hurting
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Old 09-22-2005, 08:42 PM
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Yes.

A tip is for good service.
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