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Old 11-19-2007, 04:33 PM
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Table 'Cassiopea' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: xx ($120.20 in chips)
Seat 2: )TILTEM( ($1985.90 in chips)
Seat 3: xx ($1000 in chips)
Seat 4: hero ($2558.50 in chips)
Seat 5: xx ($940 in chips)
Seat 6: xx ($213.50 in chips)
hero : posts small blind $5
xx: posts big blind $10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hero [Ks Qd]
_-krnaval-_: folds
xx : folds
)TILTEM(: raises $30 to $40
xx : folds
hero : calls $35
xx : folds
*** FLOP *** [Qs 9h 8d]
hero: checks
)TILTEM(: bets $50
hero: calls $50
*** TURN *** [Qs 9h 8d] [6h]
hero: bets $130
)TILTEM(: raises $340 to $470
hero: calls $340
*** RIVER *** [Qs 9h 8d 6h] [7d]
hero: checks
)TILTEM(: bets $1425.90 and is all-in
hero?

pot is 1127. villain is 27/15 in 430 hands. we started tangling today when i called his CO preflop raise with AT in the SB and check/called three streets on an A8xx8 board. we've been getting involved in the ~40 minutes since, with a decent number of pots since then with some bluffing and thin vbetting. i'm around 26/21.
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Old 11-20-2007, 10:22 AM
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I fold, Im not a fan of the turn lead.
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Old 11-20-2007, 10:38 AM
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Default Re: one pair oop deep on a wet board. yum.

Ever since i read somewhere that if 'JT makes the nuts, someone has JT' it seems to be true...

Id just be check calling / folding though (depending obv on how villain has played while youve been there)
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Old 11-20-2007, 11:09 AM
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Ever since i read somewhere that if 'JT makes the nuts, someone has JT' it seems to be true...

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Haha. So true.
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Old 11-20-2007, 11:12 AM
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Default Re: one pair oop deep on a wet board. yum.

Explan someome please to me the logic of donking the turn without folding to a raise ?
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Old 11-20-2007, 11:13 AM
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Explan someome please to me the logic of donking the turn without folding to a raise ?

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Donking turn looks suspicious, so we think he might bluffraise us?
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Old 11-20-2007, 11:20 AM
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Default Re: one pair oop deep on a wet board. yum.

You did know that every reply would be 'fold' when you posted this right?

Fold.

Can you elaborate more on the turn bet/call than "he could be bluffing I have top pair I call"?
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Old 11-20-2007, 06:12 PM
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Explan someome please to me the logic of donking the turn without folding to a raise ?

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Donking turn looks suspicious, so we think he might bluffraise us?

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yeah, or semi-bluff.

my standard is to check in spots like these, but it's really annoying to have to play guessing games about how many streets to check/call. btw, he had AQ in the hand where i c/c'ed 3 streets with AT, not sure how that plays into things.

also he can have a lot of pair+gs type hands that i'd rather him not take a free card. i think he will raise those a decent percentage of the time and then decide that he has showdown value enough to just check behind on the river.

as played, yeah, there's really no way i can call the river. it sucks though because he can be bluffing a lot of hands there and there's very little chance that i have a straight, so my hand is actually near the top of my range. the problem is that he could be getting clever and making a thin value push with a set/2 pair.
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Old 11-20-2007, 06:14 PM
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I don't see how you're calling a raise after you c/c,donk.
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Old 11-20-2007, 06:18 PM
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I don't see how you're calling a raise after you c/c,donk.

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because he can have 7 million semi-bluff hands and based on history he thinks i'm f.o.s. and is not afraid to raise.
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