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Old 05-07-2007, 07:34 PM
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I shorthanded seeing show down and winning at show down.

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Kerowo, so that's wtsd/w$sd?
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Old 05-07-2007, 07:39 PM
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wtsd = Went To Show Down, how many times you see the other guy's cards on the river.
w$sd = Won Money at Show Down, how many times you won the pot when you see the other guy's cards on the river.

Is that what you are asking?
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Old 05-07-2007, 07:42 PM
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You play too tight. Raise more PF. You seem to value bet decently well (72% W$SD when betting the river). That figure certainly could go down a bit though. I don't know what the idea # is...maybe 66-68%?
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Old 05-07-2007, 07:47 PM
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One thing to remember OP, is that stats are not predictive, they are descriptive. That is, you can see how you play by looking at the stats but you can't improve your win rate by just hitting a certain pfr or vpip stat.
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Old 05-07-2007, 07:51 PM
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Default Re: 117k poker tracker stats..

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One thing to remember OP, is that stats are not predictive, they are descriptive. That is, you can see how you play by looking at the stats but you can't improve your win rate by just hitting a certain pfr or vpip stat.

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I did not understood this....
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Old 05-07-2007, 08:01 PM
OziBattler OziBattler is offline
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One thing to remember OP, is that stats are not predictive, they are descriptive. That is, you can see how you play by looking at the stats but you can't improve your win rate by just hitting a certain pfr or vpip stat.

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I did not understood this....

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let me help. I said you need to play more hands preflop, raise more preflop and steal more. You could easily do what I suggest and lose money as a result because you may not play those extra hands well.....your win rate would go down even though your stats would be 'better'

heres the thing though, if you never start playing more hands you are limiting your growth as a poker player. for a change of pace can I suggest you play some 6max..doing that, even if only ocassionally, will help you learn to play shorthanded.
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Old 05-07-2007, 08:03 PM
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You should worry about playing better poker not about having a certain stat within 1 or 2 percent of some golden number. You could play at the optimum vpip by mindless folding 8.5 hands out of 10 raising half of the hands you play and still not understand what is going on. Most of the players who have been around for a while stopped worrying about stats shortly after their 100k stat hand post. Use your stats as another window in your game to locate leaks, but don't be driven by them.
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Old 05-07-2007, 08:04 PM
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Default Re: 117k poker tracker stats..

lol how can you play 117k hands at 0.25/0.50?

I would say that given your stupidly tight vpip, your wtsd and w$sd should be way higher. So should your w$wsf. Do you c-bet much?

You are way too tight in the blinds. I would honest to god raise with any two cards when stealing from you.

One things this shows is that weak-tight play will make you a winner, just not a big winner.

Kerowo, I don't think your wtsd/w#sd is 33/33.... What are you talking about?
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Old 05-07-2007, 08:13 PM
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Default Re: 117k poker tracker stats..

You are right, I was missremembering. In my 15k .25/.50 hands I'm basically 36/50.
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Old 05-07-2007, 08:14 PM
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Default Re: 117k poker tracker stats..

Seriously, is playing 117k hands of 0.25/0.50 at 13/7 stats worth $700? I don't really think so.

My advice is to play 5k-ish hands where you open up to at least 18/9, preferably more like 22/11, and then move up.
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