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Old 10-08-2007, 11:07 AM
ChrisV ChrisV is offline
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Default Re: Latest cliffsnotes on Absolute soulreading.

Josem,

I think the best comparison would be to filter your database for chunks of a few hundred hands from players who are 50%+ VPIP. That TAGs can't duplicate the BB/100 numbers isn't that surprising, but the cheaters ought to be a huge outlier even if you just plot very loose players.
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Old 10-08-2007, 01:53 PM
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Default Re: Latest cliffsnotes on Absolute soulreading.

Very nice graph Josem.

I'm curious to those still playing on Absolute whether there has been any discernible difference in traffic after this story broke.
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Old 10-08-2007, 04:17 PM
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Default Re: Latest cliffsnotes on Absolute soulreading.

In the week following the story break on absolute there wasn't any noticeable difference in traffic.
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Old 10-08-2007, 05:50 PM
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Default Re: Latest cliffsnotes on Absolute soulreading.

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In the week following the story break on absolute there wasn't any noticeable difference in traffic.

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I don't think this surprises anyone, and it's why we can't give up.
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Old 10-08-2007, 06:01 PM
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Default Re: Latest cliffsnotes on Absolute soulreading.

Josem, that chart is brilliant. Thank you.

One point. Of course no one with a significant sample will sustain a winrate anywhere close to that. What does the chart look like if you limit it to players with 500-1000 hand samples in the DB?
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Old 10-09-2007, 02:37 PM
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Default Re: Latest cliffsnotes on Absolute soulreading.

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In the week following the story break on absolute there wasn't any noticeable difference in traffic.

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I don't think this surprises anyone, and it's why we can't give up.

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I was telling my girlfriend about this story, and she could not believe that this hadn't crossed over into the newspapers. Although honestly, I'd hate for it to hit the mainstream and have every casino donkey railing on and on (even more) about the riggedness of online poker.
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Old 10-09-2007, 02:49 PM
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Default Re: Latest cliffsnotes on Absolute soulreading.

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Folks,

Using Hold'em Manager, my own multi-million hand database, and hand histories generously contributed from forum members, I've graphed a chart comparing VPIP and BB/100.

Narrowing that database to players who have 500 hands or more, over 5,000 players remained.

No player is anywhere close to the accused.



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Alright, this is BBV! Who wants to confess being the guy in the bottom left?
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Old 10-09-2007, 03:07 PM
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Default Re: Latest cliffsnotes on Absolute soulreading.

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Josem,

I think the best comparison would be to filter your database for chunks of a few hundred hands from players who are 50%+ VPIP. That TAGs can't duplicate the BB/100 numbers isn't that surprising, but the cheaters ought to be a huge outlier even if you just plot very loose players.

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Old 10-09-2007, 03:11 PM
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Default Re: Latest cliffsnotes on Absolute soulreading.

are these accounts still playing as well?
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Old 10-09-2007, 03:35 PM
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are these accounts still playing as well?

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AFAIK, they have not been seen since shortly after this thread surfaced.
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