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Old 11-10-2007, 09:20 AM
1p0kerboy 1p0kerboy is offline
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Default Re: Stars VIP Wild speculation

I think I undershot the amount of E$ Supernova Elite's currently get.

Currently they get 2 out of the following 3:
EPT Monte Carlo $15,500
PokerStars Caribbean Adventure $8,000
World Series of Poker $10,000

AND they get
WCOOP $2600

So right now they get ~$25,000+ in tournament entries (not including travel and hotel accommodations).

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Old 11-10-2007, 09:23 AM
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Old 11-10-2007, 12:45 PM
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Default Re: Stars VIP Wild speculation

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Old 11-10-2007, 01:07 PM
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nice.
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Old 11-10-2007, 02:24 PM
1p0kerboy 1p0kerboy is offline
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I was thinking a little bit more about the E$ 'proposal' and how good it would be for both Stars and the players. A couple points for the Stars guys reading this:

[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] It costs Stars nothing additional.
[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] It gives the players more choices, which makes them much happier.

Each Supernova Elite receives $25,000 E$ in January.

Basically, all tournaments that you can purchase in the FPP store are covered under this plan. Maybe the Sunday Warm-up could also be included for our European brothers and sisters. It has become quite a popular tournament.

So the following tournaments would be available:

<font color="red"> European Poker Tour </font>
EPT Barcelona Open $11,800
EPT London $11,300
EPT Baden Classic $11,800
EPT Dublin $11,800
EPT Prague $7,400
EPT Caribbean Adventure $8,000
EPT German Open $11,800
EPT Scandinavian Open $10,300
EPT Polish Open $12,100
EPT San Remo $11,800
EPT Grand Final $15,600

<font color="green"> Asia Pacific Poker Tour </font>
Phillipines $2,500
Korea $2,500
China $2,500
China $15,000
Australia $5,500

<font color="orange"> World Series of Poker </font>
Event#1 mixed HE $5,000
Event#3 NLH $1,500
Event#7 PLO $5,000 + Rebuys
Event#8 NLH $1,000 + Rebuys
Event#13 PLH $5,000
Event#28 NLH $3,000
Event#31 HU NLH $5,000
Event#32 7CS $2,000
Main Event $10,000

<font color="brown"> World Championship of Online Poker </font>
1 NL Hold'em [6-max] $215
2 PL 5-Card Draw $215
3 PL Omaha [6-max] $215
4 2-7 Triple Draw $215
5 NL Hold'em $530
6 PL Omaha w/Rebuys $320
7 Limit Hold'em $215
8 Limit Omaha H/L $530
9 NL Hold'em w/Rebuys $215
10 NL Hold'em Match Play $320
11 Razz $215
12 HORSE $215
13 PL Hold'em $530
14 NL Hold'em $1,050
15 7 Card Stud $320
16 PL Omaha H/L $320
17 NL Hold'em [6-max] $320
18 7 Card Stud H/L $530
19 PL Omaha $530
20 NL Hold'em Triple Shootout $530
21 HORSE $5,200
22 Limit Hold'em $1,050
23 NL Hold'em Main Event $2,600

<font color="brown"> PokerStars weekly tournaments </font>
Sunday Million $215-$1050
Sunday Warm-up $215
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Old 11-10-2007, 02:44 PM
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Default Re: Stars VIP Wild speculation

Pokerboy -
First, San Remo should be only $7400...not $11.8k.

The way it is set up now the player gets the expenses included for their 2 land-based tournaments.

So the Monte Carlo package is actually worth around $18k I believe and the WSOP and PCA are both worth $12k I believe.

If you also include the WCOOP final which is $2600 then anyone choosing Monte Carlo gets a total of $32,600 at Elite.

I think you are including the expenses in the package if you want to purchase that. So if I spend E$10k on a WSOP package I am actually getting $12k total or something like that.

But doing it this way I think somebody who chooses a bunch of the smaller APPT or EPT tourneys can end up with way more value by racking up travel and expense cash or something.

Since I think Stars has a greater incentive to promote their brand new APPT perhaps this ends up being a good thing for them. Not sure they want to give away the store though.

I too would like the idea of more flexibility with the land-based tourney options and Scottyy seems somewhat agreeable to some flexibility on this and i think you are on the right track here.

Just pointing out that maybe this will end up encouraging people to rack up the travel and expense dollars in the APPT events or something if you do it this way.
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Old 11-10-2007, 02:54 PM
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Stars' site says San Remo is 8,000 Euros, so I'm not sure where you're getting that figure ($7400) from.

I think travel/hotel accommodations should only be included for events that are $8,000 and up. This won't include the WSOP preliminary events OR the smaller APPT events(unless Stars wants to throw a bone).
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Old 11-10-2007, 03:01 PM
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I saw the 5k euro price-tag for San Remo here:

http://www.europeanpokertour.com/schedule.html
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Old 11-10-2007, 03:13 PM
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On a completely different note, with the declining dollar, seems like the best value is now the 250 Pound Amazon certificates for 31k fpp. At 2.091 exchange rate its worth about 0.0168. The more the dollar falls the better the value!
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Old 11-10-2007, 04:07 PM
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Different San Remo price.
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