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Old 07-19-2007, 06:20 PM
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Default Re: The Moneymaker Effect Pt II - The Yang Addendum

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Try reading it one sentence a day.

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some day it might take any WSOP champion to help the poker community by signing up with a rakefree poker site, to end the ridiculous prevalence of players' expectations that they have to pay a rake.

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Sentences generally start with capital letters. Assuming this is a "sentence" it makes little sense. It appears you mean to use the indefinite word "someday" but instead use the two words "some day."

You say that "it might take any WSOP champion to help the poker community" -- what does that phrase mean? Do you mean to say "A WSOP champion might help the poker community" by "signing up" with a "rakefree" poker site?

And by "signing up" do you mean getting an account with a site that does not collect rake or do you require that the player actually sign a sponsorship agreement with such a site?

What if that site does not offer him the compensation that PokerStars or FTP offers?

And how would this unnamed "any WSOP champion" end a "ridiculous prevalance" in "players' expectations"? Try not using large words unnecessarily...

Instead you might consider saying that "If a World Series of Poker champion was to agree to promote one of the poker sites that does not charge rake (or rebates 100% of the rake to the players), he might persuade many more players that they do not have to pay rake to play poker online."

There is the sentence for today. If I feel the urge, we will go to the next sentence tomorrow. Better yet, if you believe you have something important to offer and want to persuade us, why don't you take the time necessary to think carefully about what you are going to say and how are you going to say it before you spew it to the world?

Have a good evening.

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Old 07-19-2007, 06:58 PM
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Default Re: The Moneymaker Effect Pt II - The Yang Addendum

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tl;dnr

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tl;dr
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Old 07-19-2007, 08:12 PM
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Default Re: The Moneymaker Effect Pt II - The Yang Addendum

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Stars are handed down by the board moderators, for posting something offensive, illegal or downright stupid.

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Oh OK, thanks! Surprised I don't see that many *************************** then [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 07-19-2007, 09:29 PM
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A) Not even close

B) People saying he will bring the Jesus factor is just silly. ESPN will very likely not broadcast all that crap he said during allins

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lol why not. I think it'd be awesome. I found it annoying but it'd sure make a great story.

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I bet they will. And even if they don't, I imagine he will be fairly public speaking about his religion and about how he donated 10% to his church or whatever (didn't he?). The tables will probably not be littered with religious folk now (who are by nature stupid and therefore bad at poker -- just kidding -- sort of) but it couldn't hurt.
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Old 07-19-2007, 09:39 PM
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A) Not even close

B) People saying he will bring the Jesus factor is just silly. ESPN will very likely not broadcast all that crap he said during allins

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no he gave money to:

the Make-A-Wish Foundation, Feed the Children, and the Ronald McDonald House

feed the children is loosely related to the catholic church

lol why not. I think it'd be awesome. I found it annoying but it'd sure make a great story.

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I bet they will. And even if they don't, I imagine he will be fairly public speaking about his religion and about how he donated 10% to his church or whatever (didn't he?). The tables will probably not be littered with religious folk now (who are by nature stupid and therefore bad at poker -- just kidding -- sort of) but it couldn't hurt.

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Old 07-19-2007, 09:39 PM
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Default Re: The Moneymaker Effect Pt II - The Yang Addendum

Real Estate is location, location, location.

Poker is ESPN, ESPN, ESPN.

Moneymaker just happened to be the one who won when the four letter decided to take it big time.

Yes, he is "everyman" but television had more to do with it than anything.
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Old 07-19-2007, 10:05 PM
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I think what will be interesting is to see how all this money effects his faith in the years to come.

Money can be the biggest test of one's faith and I wish him the best and hope he is well grounded.

Time will tell whether all this money destroys him like some of the lottery winners.
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Old 07-19-2007, 10:21 PM
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Sorry to repeat this, but I don't get any feedback on why it isn't a good set of ideas:

1. some day it might take any WSOP champion to help the poker community by signing up with a rakefree poker site, to end the ridiculous prevalence of players' expectations that they have to pay a rake. Since it is hopeful that any new champion will have more than enough money to live on, and who might not even want to play poker much afterwards (a la Yang) a reasonable deal can be struck with a site such as wsex.com (and I am not advocating any specific site, rather the idea that if any sites offer something very generous and advantageous to players as a whole, then it seems that the collective intelligence would work to reciprocate capitalize on this eventually, in its own interests) where the champion could even hope that players could voluntarily opt for parts of their 100% rakeback be contributed to charities of their choice (hearkening back to a Yang-like disposition, though prior to Negreanu's move to stars I had suggested this idea several times--no doubt Negreanu knows what is best for him, but what about the rest of the poker paying public?) and this could even be done via the float's interest or parlaying sports bets with charity to get that extra entertainment bang.

Are you following me so far? (and yes, it doesn't take brains to try and shoot it down, rather, it takes persistence and brains to get this idea started).

2. collective power amongst poker players can do several amazing and positive things if channeled logically. For instance, the concept of tipping in a more centralized manner (again with free choice for all) where players opt out of the usual routine (wear a button and tell your dealer) and contribute to an annual (or any periodic) award, however imperfectly constructed, to the best dealers in the world. We are talking about tips that must exceed $100M to $200M annually, so why not disburse these through fairly audited and judged merit based metrics? The joke being that an annual $100M winner-take-all (just one variant) prize would facilitate a quantum leap in dealing quality and you'd get brain surgeons vying for that prize, hence a better pool of talent for new dealers. Meanwhile, casinos would have to pick up the slack and pay decent wages etc. during the quick transition. Imagine any dealer paying attention so carefully all year to keep the lowest error rate possible and to be fair to all players, and whatever else it takes to excel, etc. The best deserve to be rewarded, (it's the American way, lol) the general manner with which most of us are ROUTINELY tipping today UTTERLY AND UNEQUIVOCALLY FAILS TO ACHIEVE MUCH OF ITS PURPOSE AND POTENTIAL.

It's not the specificity of the ideas I'm pushing that matters, but the lost opportunities of MANY well-considered methods of improving the QUALITY AND VALUE OF EXPERIENCE FOR ALL POKER PLAYERS THAT IS VERY PUZZLING TO ME.

The reason it doesn't happen is only because unorganized players play for various other reasons, entertainment, compulsion, and action.

Once we use our heads, with the appropriate reasoning and talent, guys like Raymer, Lederer, Ferguson, Bloch, Negreanu and any next generic champion could wake up and lead us.

I'd lead but you guys don't know who the hell I am.

So step up, somebody. Please. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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After a single 177 word sentence, you ask "Are you following me so far?", and then you proceed to emit another few hefty blocks of total gibberish. Somehow, I don't think you give a damn about the answer.

Despite the genius displayed by Jack Kerouac in his wonderful novel On the Road, not every scatter-shot sequence of random verbiage is a work of art.

Have some self-respect man. Your parents and your neighbors paid property taxes so that you could learn the basic stuff by sixth grade. You should be embarrassed by this drivel.
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Old 07-19-2007, 10:25 PM
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B) People saying he will bring the Jesus factor is just silly. ESPN will very likely not broadcast all that crap he said during allins

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I certainly hope they don't. If the live PPV hadn't broadcast that or his screams, he would have been a lot more popular with everyone.

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It wasn't broadcast so much as everyone's microphone was just up the entire time. I am sure they will edit Yang's antics out, but we got to hear it all, even when he was screaming away from the table. hycahcyahcyahasppft.
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Old 07-19-2007, 10:29 PM
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Default Re: The Moneymaker Effect Pt II - The Yang Addendum

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Try reading it one sentence a day.

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OK.

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some day it might take any WSOP champion to help the poker community by signing up with a rakefree poker site, to end the ridiculous prevalence of players' expectations that they have to pay a rake.

[/ QUOTE ]

Sentences generally start with capital letters. Assuming this is a "sentence" it makes little sense. It appears you mean to use the indefinite word "someday" but instead use the two words "some day."

You say that "it might take any WSOP champion to help the poker community" -- what does that phrase mean? Do you mean to say "A WSOP champion might help the poker community" by "signing up" with a "rakefree" poker site?

And by "signing up" do you mean getting an account with a site that does not collect rake or do you require that the player actually sign a sponsorship agreement with such a site?

What if that site does not offer him the compensation that PokerStars or FTP offers?

And how would this unnamed "any WSOP champion" end a "ridiculous prevalance" in "players' expectations"? Try not using large words unnecessarily...

Instead you might consider saying that "If a World Series of Poker champion was to agree to promote one of the poker sites that does not charge rake (or rebates 100% of the rake to the players), he might persuade many more players that they do not have to pay rake to play poker online."

There is the sentence for today. If I feel the urge, we will go to the next sentence tomorrow. Better yet, if you believe you have something important to offer and want to persuade us, why don't you take the time necessary to think carefully about what you are going to say and how are you going to say it before you spew it to the world?

Have a good evening.

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The second sentence is 177 words, and it's even more nonsensical. I suggest you skip Friday and save it for the weekend.

Remember to drink heavily before reading it; I'm sure that's what it took for him to write it.
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