Caught in the middle again.

[Captain R]

Fold preflop. That's why, so you don't have to deal with these situations where you have no idea what is going on. Getting involved for 4 bets with 99 OOP in a 4-way pot is ridiculous. Re-read Ed Miller on what type of pots you want to get involved with 99 in. 4-way capped pot is pretty much the worst situation possible.

[tessarji]

I think this is a call preflop, and on the flop you are going to play your hand as the best hand until shown otherwise. So that means raise.

[SNOWBALL]

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Fold preflop. That's why, so you don't have to deal with these situations where you have no idea what is going on.

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I can see this advice being ok if you are on a short roll or have no clue how to play after the flop. Otherwise, I think this is plainly silly. Given the reads, we can't fold this preflop.

[pjf1969]

I strongly disagree what do you think the SB's three bet range is? lets say (in light of your holding) 88+,KQo+,KXs+. I dont really like your chances againt him let alone the maniacs who will be acting after you.

[Howard Beale]

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I strongly disagree what do you think the SB's three bet range is? lets say (in light of your holding) 88+,KQo+,KXs+. I dont really like your chances againt him let alone the maniacs who will be acting after you.

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The SB is going all-in, another of those 'I'm going home' scenarios. He could have just about anything. I'm not altogether happy w/ 9's here and could argue the case either way but against a maniac and a super-lag I lean towards playing. That's a pretty bad flop, though, and you're going to be seeing a lot of bad flops, OOP and against very aggressive players when you call w/ hands like OP has and unless you read your opponents well and are able to release it might be best to just fold pf.

[pjf1969]

Ok-was late last night and I totally missed the all in sb part. I change my mind capping for value is fine-but agree to this your looking for 3 three flop types and only one is good xx9,842,Q72 coordinated big card flops and yur fk'd just like the one in the post. The value this hand has comes from dragging these donks along to the river which they will due to the big pot-conversly you will have the odds to justify shiity calls as well-the srew the variance in favor of +ev is a scary way to play poker

[Dagger78]

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I strongly disagree what do you think the SB's three bet range is? lets say (in light of your holding) 88+,KQo+,KXs+. I dont really like your chances againt him let alone the maniacs who will be acting after you.

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Another small bet and he's all in, his range is much much bigger than you're giving him. He's just looking to put it all in and hope.