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Old 06-04-2007, 04:20 AM
VPIP100 VPIP100 is offline
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Default 100NL, AA versus nit, fold?

Villain is 35/3/1.5 after 200 hands, my image is LAG (30/26/5). I know I should shove preflop, but at the time I thought If I hit a low flop I would get value from QQ which he would fold to a preflop shove.


Seat 1: Hero ($459.76)
Seat 2: CO ($102.75)
Seat 3: Button ($163.65)
Seat 4: SB ($5.70)
Seat 5: BB ($95.70)
Seat 6: UTG ($170.10)
SB posts the small blind of $0.50
BB posts the big blind of $1.00
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero[A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
UTG folds
Hero raises to $4.00
CO folds
Button calls $4.00
SB folds
BB raises to $16.50
Hero raises to $37.00
Button folds
BB calls $20.50
*** FLOP *** [Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
BB bets $58.70 and is all-in
Hero ??
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Old 06-04-2007, 04:23 AM
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Default Re: 100NL, AA versus nit, fold?

what's your question, he's all in, all you can do is call

you're pf raise size to $37 is slightly miserable... just call if you want or make a real raise, or push (yes it's a crappy flop since he may well have KK or QQ but he can also have AK or AA, or a random draw (since your last raise pf didn't really narrow his range as much as a really raise would have and he could be squeezing w/ sooted connectors)

also, this is a less than pot bet, so you're getting good odds
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Old 06-04-2007, 04:27 AM
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Default Re: 100NL, AA versus nit, fold?

I know I screwed up preflop. But his 3-betting range is only QQ+, and I doubt he would open shove AA on this flop.
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Old 06-04-2007, 04:32 AM
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Default Re: 100NL, AA versus nit, fold?

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I know I screwed up preflop. But his 3-betting range is only QQ+, and I doubt he would open shove AA on this flop.

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wtf are you worrying about, you're getting better than 30% pot odds, and you're 52% favorite WORST case scenario:

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

11,880 games 0.005 secs 2,376,000 games/sec

Board: Qs Ks 7h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 51.898% 51.52% 00.37% 6121 44.50 { AcAs }
Hand 1: 48.102% 47.73% 00.37% 5670 44.50 { KK-QQ, AKs, AKo }
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Old 06-04-2007, 04:33 AM
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Default Re: 100NL, AA versus nit, fold?

I think villain never has AK of any sort.
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Old 06-04-2007, 04:35 AM
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Default Re: 100NL, AA versus nit, fold?

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I think villain never has AK of any sort.

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well if you have that sick of a read on this villain that you think his range is only KK-QQ, then fold, but ur not going to get anyone here to believe or understand how you can narrow his range this much, so we are going to tell u to call.
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Old 06-04-2007, 04:35 AM
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Default Re: 100NL, AA versus nit, fold?

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I think villain never has AK of any sort.

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well then what's is your question, if he only has KK or QQ this is the easiest spot in the univers, but not adding AK a small smatter of random stuff to his range is v. unrealistic imo
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Old 06-04-2007, 07:31 AM
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Default Re: 100NL, AA versus nit, fold?

This is all results oriented. Just call. Also push preflop, this guy is never folding and the flop might kill your action.
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Old 06-04-2007, 07:39 AM
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Default Re: 100NL, AA versus nit, fold?

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I think villain never has AK of any sort.

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well if you have that sick of a read on this villain that you think his range is only KK-QQ, then fold, but ur not going to get anyone here to believe or understand how you can narrow his range this much, so we are going to tell u to call.

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I've noticed when donk villains take this line they show up with hands as awesome as QJ A LOT LOT more than OP thinks.
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