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Old 05-16-2007, 07:54 AM
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Default flopped set after preflop reraise....how do i get more value here ?

4-max table
villain is 36/26/5.1
he lost some big hands before with bluffs. maybe tilt

Poker Room skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
3 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $561.90
SB: $275.00
BB: $520.35

Pre-flop: (3 players) Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $8</font>, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $22</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($45, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $35</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($115, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $75</font>, Hero calls.

River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($265, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $150</font>, BB folds.
Uncalled bets: $150 returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: $265

I think he puts me on a flushdraw and the Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] killed all action.
How would you play this hand. Raise flop,raise turn or make a small river bet ?
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Old 05-16-2007, 08:04 AM
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Default Re: flopped set after preflop reraise....how do i get more value here

raise flop every time.
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Old 05-16-2007, 08:07 AM
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Default Re: flopped set after preflop reraise....how do i get more value here

Raise the flop, please.
If you somehow missclick call the flop, make sure you raise the turn.
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Old 05-16-2007, 08:09 AM
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Default Re: flopped set after preflop reraise....how do i get more value here

Yup, in a 100bb game, a flop call to induce turn dubbel barrels might be ok idunno. But deepstacked you REALLY want to raise this flop. If he fold he probably wouldnt have given you any more monies anyways.
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Old 05-16-2007, 08:14 AM
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Default Re: flopped set after preflop reraise....how do i get more value here

After his 3-bet you need to play postflop as if he has KK/AA. Therefore, when you flop a monster you need to raise the flop and give him a chance to stack off with KK/AA (and maybe QQ). The beauty of this flop is that it's highly connected, yet not in a way that helps him. If you raise the flop he has to be concerned about a draw, which means he will be more reluctant to fold his KK/AA.

Raise it to $95 and give him the opportunity to make a big mistake.
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Old 05-16-2007, 08:17 AM
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Default Re: flopped set after preflop reraise....how do i get more value here

ok you are probably right. My thought was if he has air that he will bet the turn again cause he bluffs realy much. Or that he catch something on turn or river.
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Old 05-16-2007, 08:30 AM
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Default Re: flopped set after preflop reraise....how do i get more value here

lol,

"you have to raise this flop"

call flop, raise turn is way better vs this villain.
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Old 05-16-2007, 08:40 AM
Hattifnatt Hattifnatt is offline
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Default Re: flopped set after preflop reraise....how do i get more value here

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lol,

"you have to raise this flop"

call flop, raise turn is way better vs this villain.

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with 100bb I agree even though its not super clear, but this deep he should raise the flop for sure.
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Old 05-16-2007, 08:41 AM
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Default Re: flopped set after preflop reraise....how do i get more value here

ok thx all. you are right, i missplayed it because we both were too deep here.
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Old 05-16-2007, 08:56 AM
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Default Re: flopped set after preflop reraise....how do i get more value here

Raise the flop. You gotta build that sucka up if you want to have any chance of stacking him.

Sure, if he has nothing then you'll maybe get another barrel on the turn (in this case $75), but if he has a hand you have a great shot at getting $520. And calling the flop and then raising the turn is much more likely to alert villain that you have a monster. Plus, there are a gazillion scarecards that can come on the turn.
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