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Old 11-07-2007, 04:49 AM
carnivalhobo carnivalhobo is offline
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Default Re: I dont like folding overpairs... in 4bet pots

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lol you guys are giving waaay too much credit to two obvious donks

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i dont doubt you are good, but all your strat posts seem to be cryptic and not too useful lately. I assume you bet/call?
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:51 AM
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Default Re: I dont like folding overpairs... in 4bet pots

Im checking to induce...both these guys suck and one of them is always stabbing at this pot after we check.
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:53 AM
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Default Re: I dont like folding overpairs... in 4bet pots

well this hand should be treated like a 3bet pot...

you should definitely lead given the donk, if CO pushes maaaybe fold, although our equity against his range(mainly two pairs and draws) isn't bad. If button pushes definitely call.
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:56 AM
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Default Re: I dont like folding overpairs... in 4bet pots

going with Nick here.

if you check its to fold to that type of action. but against two unskilled monkeys I lead and call a shove here.
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:59 AM
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Default Re: I dont like folding overpairs... in 4bet pots

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lol you guys are giving waaay too much credit to two obvious donks

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How is a 21/12 an obvious donk? Sure, he doesn't raise enough PF, but he is definately not retarded or anything. Most of these type of players are kind of nitty when it comes to commiting in my experience.
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Old 11-07-2007, 05:05 AM
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Default Re: I dont like folding overpairs... in 4bet pots

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lol you guys are giving waaay too much credit to two obvious donks

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How is a 21/12 an obvious donk? Sure, he doesn't raise enough PF, but he is definately not retarded or anything. Most of these type of players are kind of nitty when it comes to commiting in my experience.

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he called a minraise and a large raise over that... i don't care what his stats are, he isn't good and we definitely shouldn't be checking here.
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Old 11-07-2007, 05:12 AM
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Default Re: I dont like folding overpairs... in 4bet pots

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lol you guys are giving waaay too much credit to two obvious donks

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How is a 21/12 an obvious donk? Sure, he doesn't raise enough PF, but he is definately not retarded or anything. Most of these type of players are kind of nitty when it comes to commiting in my experience.

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he called a minraise and a large raise over that... i don't care what his stats are, he isn't good and we definitely shouldn't be checking here.

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So because he's very passive preflop we should give him credit for being ultra aggro post???
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Old 11-07-2007, 05:22 AM
Mjafish Mjafish is offline
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Default Re: I dont like folding overpairs... in 4bet pots

yeah looks like you're beat. pretty standard fold imo..

EDIT: as played, that is.
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Old 11-07-2007, 05:30 AM
The Velour Fog The Velour Fog is offline
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Default Re: I dont like folding overpairs... in 4bet pots

i agree with everything ike is saying here. i see alot of these threads in ssnl where everyone is looking for excuses to fold and then congratulate each other on excellent hand analysis, while in reality most of the villains are donks that stick it in with what have you and walk away with it.
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Old 11-07-2007, 05:55 AM
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Default Re: I dont like folding overpairs... in 4bet pots

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When I saw the title I couldn't imagine a fold, but I can now.

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If the title included "3 players saw the flop" then I could imagine a fold, but it's a clear fold now
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