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Old 10-11-2007, 10:09 AM
IAmNit IAmNit is offline
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Default Re: 200/400 against Nenad Medic difficult river decision

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pot control is correct and if he shoves turn i snapcall cuz he can have a lot of draws my raise looks like a (semi)bluff and i cannot see him checking a strong hand like a set twice on this dangerous board

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My next question is what kind of hand were you putting him on after the call PF(pre)?
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Old 10-11-2007, 10:17 AM
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Default Re: 200/400 against Nenad Medic difficult river decision

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what do you guys think of Nenad's river check OOP?

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considering if he shoves we will fold most (or all) worse hands and call with all better check is the only thing he can do.

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i would probably call with worse 2pairs than AQ if he open shoved river..
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Old 10-11-2007, 10:09 PM
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Default Re: 200/400 against Nenad Medic difficult river decision

i wouldnt have called a river shove with my hand. AJ would be close.
to be honest hes a big donkey so its very hard to put him on any hand preflop. after he call my turn raise i thought a weak made hand with some outs was likely, QT,JT,J9, TT, 99, KQ type comes to mind
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Old 10-11-2007, 10:31 PM
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Default Re: 200/400 against Nenad Medic difficult river decision

i dunnu if its just me , but usually i dont think its a good idea to threebet a donkey preflop with J8s.
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Old 10-12-2007, 02:47 AM
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Default Re: 200/400 against Nenad Medic difficult river decision

why not, i might have him dominated!
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Old 10-12-2007, 07:25 AM
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why not, i might have him dominated!

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That's my point. Wouldn't it be the good play to bet your pair in position on the flop?
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Old 10-14-2007, 07:36 PM
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Default Re: 200/400 against Nenad Medic difficult river decision

obviously i saw the results, but i don't like a bet here against nenad. QK and QT might be calling you, but it might not be. there isn't a whole lot else that he calls a reraise preflop with, bet/calls a raise on the turn with, that doesn't beat a bad 2pair by the river.

Nenad is too loose and a bit passive, but betting this river is just trying to get way too fancy, imo.

If the river was a total blank, I think I like a bet a lot more. I realize how results oriented this sounds. But, without the ace, Nenad could easily put OP on AK or TK, and possibly make a hero call. It's pretty hard to (profitably) make a hero call with this final board, and I think nenad knows that.

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Old 10-15-2007, 02:22 AM
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Default Re: 200/400 against Nenad Medic difficult river decision

a little late, but ty [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
my plan was to shove a blank river, since i really thought im ahead. i still thought i was ahead after that ace hit but not by much and the ace makes it more difficult for him to call me with just 1 pair so i checked it down.
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Old 10-18-2007, 05:45 AM
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Default Re: 200/400 against Nenad Medic difficult river decision

Why raise the turn? If you checked behind on flop for PC why not just call turn bet and play river accordingly.
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Old 10-18-2007, 06:51 AM
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Default Re: 200/400 against Nenad Medic difficult river decision

like they said, you're going to get called only by a better hand or maybe 7s or 6s but no action for rags
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