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Old 11-04-2007, 01:45 PM
vixticator vixticator is offline
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Default Re: Do I have to push here?

grunching

No, why would you raise this? There are no bad turn cards and SLAG isn't checking turn. Check and call push on turn.
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Old 11-04-2007, 01:52 PM
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Default Re: Do I have to push here?

I push this flop. All day. Why would you NOT play for your stack with an overpair and the nut flush draw?
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Old 11-04-2007, 03:37 PM
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Default Re: Do I have to push here?

We have limited reads. Here's what we do know...

1)Villain has $36.60 at a $25 buy-in table. He's here to play some poker.
2)Villain called first in at 6max. He's not very good in that regard.
3)Villain called a big PFR from Hero(in the blind). He chose to show no aggression PF and just call, call.
4)Villain sees 3 spades, a Queen, and a descent continuation bet from Hero yet decides to way overbet the pot. The overbet is ridiculous and beyond what is required to make a flush draw error by calling.
5)Villain does not have the nuts.

Call, call, overbet. Q6, Q5, 65, QQ, 55, 66, XYspades all make sense. Qx is dumb and ulikely to provoke such an overbet although anything is within the realm of possibility.

Given what we know I see insufficient evidence that the villain is dumb/crazy enough to stack off with a holding that is inferior to ours. So I fold until his donkiness is more evident later in the hour.
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Old 11-04-2007, 03:52 PM
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Default Re: Do I have to push here?

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4)Villain sees 3 spades, a Queen, and a descent continuation bet from Hero yet decides to way overbet the pot. The overbet is ridiculous and beyond what is required to make a flush draw error by calling.


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Is a PSR an overbet? He's betting 7.50 into a 7.50 pot.
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Old 11-04-2007, 03:52 PM
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Default Re: Do I have to push here?

Folding/not pushing this would be like folding KK for 100BB pre.
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Old 11-04-2007, 03:57 PM
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Default Re: Do I have to push here?

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Don't stack off because you're going to win 52% of the time

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Are you being serious?
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Old 11-04-2007, 04:22 PM
Check_The_Nuts Check_The_Nuts is offline
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grunching

No, why would you raise this? There are no bad turn cards and SLAG isn't checking turn. Check and call push on turn.

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if a spade hits this probably will not happen. Thats why
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Old 11-04-2007, 06:20 PM
ph2133868789 ph2133868789 is offline
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against a player who will probably give you better scenarios in the near future.

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Is this an argument for a push or a fold?
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Old 11-04-2007, 06:31 PM
maciczka maciczka is offline
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Default Re: Do I have to push here?

all guys who said they aren't pushing. plz write Your nicks and site where You play.
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Old 11-04-2007, 08:50 PM
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happily shove
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