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Old 09-09-2007, 11:54 PM
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where did you get this info about restricting bloodflow to the brain? If it's true then I should probably abstain before playing poker.

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"caffeine blues" book
http://www.amazon.com/Caffeine-Blues.../dp/0446673919

review of book in june 2007 section
http://georgegordon.org/Radio_Archives.htm#Archives

here's some links I googled on bloodflow

http://www.iflyamerica.org/caffeine.asp
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High doses of caffeine also restrict blood flow to the brain. The result: less oxygen to fuel those all-important mental tasks that keep us moving safely through the air. Even just two cups of coffee can reduce the blood flow by 15 to 20 percent, according to David Kerr, MD, who has studied the issue for the British military.

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http://www.adastreet.com.au/content/cms/CAFFEINE/2015/
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Caffeine can restrict blood flow to the heart muscle by up to 39% during exercise. This can cause tissue scarring which is a major cause of heart attack.

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http://www.sportsgeezer.com/sportsge..._before_e.html
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The story reports that both groups repeated the test after ingesting 200 milligrams of caffeine -- the amount contained in two cups of coffee. Researchers found that the caffeine did not affect heart blood flow when the participants were inactive, but did so for those who had exercised. Heart blood flow was 22 percent lower in those who exercised in normal air pressure and 39 percent lower in those who exercised in the high-altitude chamber.

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as far as cayenne, it's not really that hot and I'm a white guy. also freshness just buy in packet at mexican store or section of grocery, very probably that is *not* irradiated, unlike a lot of spices in bottles which are imported and irradiated as a matter of course.
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Old 09-10-2007, 12:54 AM
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Mary Enig writes like caffeine is the devil in her book Nourishing Traditions. All I know is that anything that gives me the [censored] like caffeine does can't be good for you.

BTW, Enig is (was maybe) the U of Maryland lipid biochemist who has fought for years and years to convince people that trans fats are bad.

http://www.enig.com/trans.html

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muh. phd in nutrition science. WTF does that even mean. Give me a biochemist, molecular biologist, something... hell even an MD with some research...
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Old 09-10-2007, 12:55 AM
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get me an article from here:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez
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Old 09-10-2007, 04:21 AM
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i drink about 8oz of coffee a day. will i die?

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Yes.
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Old 09-10-2007, 12:41 PM
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i drink about 8oz of coffee a day. will i die?

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drink more coffee
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Old 09-10-2007, 12:58 PM
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i drink about 8oz of coffee a day. will i die?

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Yes.

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It might take you 50 or more years, but our best evidence so far strongly points to your death being inevitable.
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Old 09-10-2007, 12:59 PM
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All I know is that anything that gives me the [censored] like caffeine does can't be good for you.


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Probably my favorite thing about morning coffee.

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Ditto. I'll be keeping my stool around till I have grandkids if I don't drink coffee.
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Old 09-10-2007, 06:00 PM
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She is a lipid biochemist and a nutritionist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enig

You can email her if you want a point in the right direction for articles on pubmed. These people are usually very helpful. I know I'm not going to look.
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Old 09-10-2007, 06:18 PM
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She is a lipid biochemist and a nutritionist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enig

You can email her if you want a point in the right direction for articles on pubmed. These people are usually very helpful. I know I'm not going to look.

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i think the book caffeine blues has 400 references or something to scientific stuff.
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Old 09-10-2007, 07:13 PM
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Here's a quote from that long, but imo worthwhile, Michael Pollan article that I've pimped three times now:

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But if nutritionism leads to a kind of false consciousness in the mind of the eater, the ideology can just as easily mislead the scientist. Most nutritional science involves studying one nutrient at a time, an approach that even nutritionists who do it will tell you is deeply flawed. ''The problem with nutrient-by-nutrient nutrition science,'' points out Marion Nestle, the New York University nutritionist, ''is that it takes the nutrient out of the context of food, the food out of the context of diet and the diet out of the context of lifestyle.''

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