First SNG - Did I goof? - Page 3

TwistedEcho · #21 07-31-2007, 12:25 PM

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Assuming button never folds, then he needs to be opening >45% for this to be +$EV even if we don't consider the added EV of folding and letting the BB try to bust.

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one of us has our numbers wrong here.

I am doing a party 6max sng in sngpt (payout 60%/40%) and its getting AQs +0.1% vs 29% opening range (i just assumed he shoved) with stacks 2100/1000/900 at 100/200

fishyak · #22 07-31-2007, 01:18 PM

Payout structure was 60 - Ist 40 2nd.

Big stack had not been pushing often - I knew he had a good hand and would not bee pushed off of it by my -re-raise. I knew he would call my all-in.

Glad this one has inspired some debate. Even for a small amount of $, this one seemed like a "classic" SNG question to encounter on my first outing.

DevinLake · #23 07-31-2007, 01:34 PM

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Assuming button never folds, then he needs to be opening >45% for this to be +$EV even if we don't consider the added EV of folding and letting the BB try to bust.

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one of us has our numbers wrong here.

I am doing a party 6max sng in sngpt (payout 60%/40%) and its getting AQs +0.1% vs 29% opening range (i just assumed he shoved) with stacks 2100/1000/900 at 100/200

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I'm wrong. For some reason I used 3100/1000/900 at 100/200.

chuckpalms04 · #24 07-31-2007, 01:36 PM

no i think your stacks are right, devin - 10 players at 500 chips = 5k chips in play. 1k for OP, 900 for bb, which leaves 3100 for button.

DevinLake · #25 07-31-2007, 01:38 PM

wow..I'm dumb today. I was going to play a session, maybe I won't.

fishyak · #26 07-31-2007, 01:44 PM

That's about right for stack sizes.

TwistedEcho · #27 07-31-2007, 02:26 PM

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no i think your stacks are right, devin - 10 players at 500 chips = 5k chips in play. 1k for OP, 900 for bb, which leaves 3100 for button.

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oh i thought this was 6max, what a weird structure 10handed paying 2 spots.

ymu · #28 07-31-2007, 02:30 PM

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Let's assume, because the OP hasn't bothered to tell us differently, that the pay out is the same as most online 6max sngs, which is 60% for 1st and 40% for 2nd.

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The ones I play pay 2:1. 60:40 would make a difference - I'm not sure he's pushing wide enough to make it a push if the payout is that flat.

TwistedEcho · #29 07-31-2007, 02:30 PM

Assuming this is a 10 handed tournament, with 60%/40% payouts then its a realllllly easy fold with AQs.

jesse8888 · #30 07-31-2007, 02:30 PM

With the payout of 60/40, the analysis I did before is pretty flawed. Assuming stacks of 3000/1000/1000 if you just fold and 2000/2000/1000 if you call and win, you need to win this hand over 2/3rds of the time (about 67.5%) for it to be break even. AQs isn't even that good against ATC, so given what you said about him raising pretty tight, this is actually a fold.