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Old 11-08-2007, 12:15 AM
jvans jvans is offline
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Default FTOPS 1 tough spot JJ oop

ok i played the hand like crap but i really dont what to do in this spot. if i bet flop im committed and my play was obviosly really weak.
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Blinds: $100/$200
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $7315
UTG+1: $3525
CO: $6650
Button: $4478
Hero: $4260
BB: $4100

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $500</font>, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1500</font>, BB folds, CO calls.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($3200, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($3200, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $1000</font>, Hero calls.

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($5200, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO is all-in $4150</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $4150 returned to CO.

Results:
Final pot:$5200


no reads only played a few hands wit him
i think my biggest mistake was on the turn i should have either folded or called the river bet. what do ppl do here?
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Old 11-08-2007, 02:37 AM
Bond18 Bond18 is offline
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Default Re: FTOPS 1 tough spot JJ oop

Considering your stack shoving pre isn't a bad option.

I'm basically not putting in 1/3rd of my stack here and folding unless flop is like AKQ all hearts or something.

As far as post flop goes, i think you need to make your decision on the turn. The thing is if you call or raise his bet you have 2500 of your starting 4200 in there, and even if you jam turn it's for 1700 more, which i think i prolly would since he might have FD and he's rarely putting more money in on the river without an A anyway, plus a K/Q migh tcome which makes your life even harder.

Edit: Also, Chewy brought something up i missed here. We should prolly just jam the turn once he checks back flop.
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Old 11-08-2007, 02:23 PM
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Default Re: FTOPS 1 tough spot JJ oop

Are you always checking this flop here? If so why, anyone?
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Old 11-08-2007, 04:52 PM
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Default Re: FTOPS 1 tough spot JJ oop

I raise a little more pre and just jam the flop.
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Old 11-09-2007, 08:20 PM
radzik radzik is offline
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Default Re: FTOPS 1 tough spot JJ oop

push preflop im with bond on not putting that much of my stack in preflop to fold after
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Old 11-09-2007, 10:22 PM
gibler321 gibler321 is offline
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Default Re: FTOPS 1 tough spot JJ oop

reraiseing preflop pretty much commits you to any flop like that. you can not call the turn if you are folding river
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Old 11-10-2007, 02:51 AM
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Default Re: FTOPS 1 tough spot JJ oop

Push preflop. As played push flop. You can't put 1/3 of your stack in preflop and then play JJ this timidly on the flop with one over.
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Old 11-10-2007, 08:07 PM
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Default Re: FTOPS 1 tough spot JJ oop

bet flop and fold to raise or shutdown to call if straightforward player.
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Old 11-10-2007, 08:08 PM
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Default Re: FTOPS 1 tough spot JJ oop

as played...villain is unlikely to be holding ace
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Old 11-10-2007, 10:00 PM
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Default Re: FTOPS 1 tough spot JJ oop

I like pre. I would check call the flop if he shoved and check call the turn if he shoved, but as played this line looks so valuey and I call turn and punch monitor and fold river.
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