Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > PL/NL Texas Hold'em > Small Stakes
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 07-03-2007, 12:19 AM
mxp2004 mxp2004 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Boothwyn, PA
Posts: 238
Default 1/2 NL: Deciphering Mixed Signals

This is a hand from a live 1/2 NL game. The question is about how you would interpret the other player's actions and statements at the end of the hand.

Villain was LAG preflop, often putting in the first raise with a wide range of hands, and calling raises with just as wide a range to see a flop. However, after the flop, he played very well and made good decisions.

In this hand, a tight player with a big stack limped from MP. I raised to $12 with A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] from two seats down. Villain called on the button, as did the limper.

The flop came out 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. It was checked to me, and I C-bet $25. The Villain called again, as did the limper. So now there was about $110 in the pot.

The turn was the K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Everyone checked.

The river was the A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], for a final board of 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. So I paired my A, with a Q kicker.

The limper checked, and I checked behind, intending to call any reasonable bet by the Villain and maybe even check-raise, depending on the bet. At this point, the Villain stood up from the table and pushed all in for $170, announcing, "I'm ready to go home." The limper mucked. I had about $200 behind and a decision to make.

I felt like I had the best hand here because the way that the Villain played the hand seemed more like a flush draw that missed than anything else. If he had a monster (A6, A8, AK), why would he overbet the pot and put me all-in?

However, all the physical/verbal tells were to the contrary. The "I'm ready to go home" speech seemed like a classic "weak means strong" tell. The standing up at the table struck me as someone who really liked his hand. Also, he stood there perfectly calm, with his arms folded across his chest, while he waited for me to make a decision. There was no nervous energy at all.

So how do you put all this together? Would you call or fold here? Do you trust your instincts on the betting patterns, or do you let the physical/verbal signals over-rule them when you have a marginally strong hand?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-03-2007, 12:29 AM
FishSticks FishSticks is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Tailgating at the Ralph
Posts: 2,687
Default Re: 1/2 NL: Deciphering Mixed Signals

Fold.

I'd probably make a small bet on the river.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-03-2007, 12:41 AM
Chaos_ult Chaos_ult is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Non Serviam
Posts: 2,253
Default Re: 1/2 NL: Deciphering Mixed Signals

Hate your river check a lot.

As played I guess I fold.

I don't think I bet the flop either..
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-03-2007, 01:26 AM
modnareno modnareno is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 445
Default Re: 1/2 NL: Deciphering Mixed Signals

Anytime anyone says "I'm ready to go home" all they are ready for is to double up. This is an easy fold. Also, your kicker doesn't actually - not that i think it really matters, he has the ace beat all the time.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-03-2007, 02:03 AM
ThreeBeers ThreeBeers is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 130
Default Re: 1/2 NL: Deciphering Mixed Signals

Fold and let him go home.

ThreeBeers
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-03-2007, 02:08 AM
thac thac is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Go Buckeyes imo
Posts: 9,941
Default Re: 1/2 NL: Deciphering Mixed Signals

Yeah, so you chop with any ace and you beat a bluff against a guy that is acting like he wants to go home. Weak = strong, and he's definitely over-doing it. If the turn was a deuce or something so our kicker played, it would be a much closer decision I think, but here we beat a bluff.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:46 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.