20/40 Heads Up Razz hand on Full Tilt

[Ayodeji13]

1st razz post, comments on all streets appreciated.

Thanks.

Razz ($20/$40), Ante $3, Bring-In $6 (converter)

3rd Street - (0.30 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___brings-in___raises___calls
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___completes___raises

4th Street - (6.30 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks

5th Street - (3.15 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___raises
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets___calls

6th Street - (7.15 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets

River - (9.15 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] xx___folds
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets

Total pot: (9.15 BB - $366)

[betgo]

I wouldn't 3-bet 3rd, It gives awat too much informayion and doesn't accomplish much.

I also think the check behind on 4th gives away that you paired.

[iStackBooks]

Agreed, and this might sound a little whacky but I usually 3-bet 5th in this spot because I want to represent the 8 draw and I'm never that far behind anyway. After the check on 4th it might be a hard sell, however...

[howzit]

i pretty much agree with the first two posters but what hte hell is your opponent doing on 5th? (24)JAA? putting you on a jack draw? that would be sick.

[betgo]

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i pretty much agree with the first two posters but what hte hell is your opponent doing on 5th? (24)JAA? putting you on a jack draw? that would be sick.

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My read is villain assumed OP paired on 4th. Villain may have not as good starting cards as OP, but assumes he is ahead on 5th because he didn't pair 4th and OP did.

[Ayodeji13]

betgo,
if i dont 3bet 3rd, then i would be bet/folding 5th? becos i still wouldnt bet 4rth.

& i'm not really understanding y no 3bet 3rd, in all likelihood i have the best hand at the moment (though by a negligible margin), but my opponent is 'bigfacecat', who likes to play the small bet streets very aggresively. so its very possible he would BI/2bet a hand like 92J or 9AJ, just to see if i'm gonna back down.

anyway, thanks for the advice thus far, razz is a real interesting game & i'm still learning a bunch

[Praxising]

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My read is villain assumed OP paired on 4th. Villain may have not as good starting cards as OP, but assumes he is ahead on 5th because he didn't pair 4th and OP did.

[/ QUOTE ]Question, please, presuming villain is some average but competent player - Villain checked first on 4th. So, why would he assume he is ahead? Don't we, as Hero, also think he either paired or has a brick in the hole? I would have bet 4th, also, but either Villain is really weak or doing some trapping deal.