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Old 07-04-2007, 12:35 PM
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Default Aces cracked...again

2/4 SH

CO- TAG, decent player,pretty straightforward so far. AF 2.7

he opens in the CO, I 3bet in SB with AsAh, he calls


Flop: Qs 8s 2d ..i bet, he calls

Turn: Qd... I bet??, he calls

River: 6d I bet, he raises, i call


The turncard is actually not good for me and was thinking about c/c but in view of the 2 poss. fd´s i didnt want to give a freecard..since he is pretty agressive i choosed to bet/call and call any non-spade river.... When he just calls im pretty certain he´s got a ten or a pp.
River is pretty mandatory, i guess
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Old 07-04-2007, 12:45 PM
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Default Re: Aces cracked...again

So, what's your question?
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Old 07-04-2007, 01:06 PM
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Default Re: Aces cracked...again

c/c or b/c??
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Old 07-04-2007, 01:08 PM
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Default Re: Aces cracked...again

c/c river. He will value bet any pair and you only lose value to a hance like AK that checks behind.
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Old 07-04-2007, 01:15 PM
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Default Re: Aces cracked...again

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c/c river. ...you only lose value to a hance like AK that checks behind.

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uhh or all the other ace high hands he was calling down with once that queen pairs on the turn.

also if he might freeze up 33-77 thinking that you fear the bd flush. definitely bet/call river.
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Old 07-04-2007, 01:18 PM
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Default Re: Aces cracked...again

I never fold to the river raise here, I think it has something to do with wanting villain to know he sucked out on my aces

I like a river bet because people like to look you up with ace high on paired boards
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Old 07-04-2007, 01:46 PM
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c/c river. ...you only lose value to a hance like AK that checks behind.

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uhh or all the other ace high hands he was calling down with once that queen pairs on the turn.

also if he might freeze up 33-77 thinking that you fear the bd flush. definitely bet/call river.

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Some players will but this villain wouldn't, if his AF is any measure. Any bet here is very skinny because a raise must be called so you have to get called down twice as often by losers who would otherwise have checked behind just to make betting a BE proposition. Additionally, checking invites a bluff by a hand that would otherwise have folded to a bet. With this board that won't happen often but it still adds a couple points to your expectation.

Finally I don't know how good Villain is but any decent player will bet any piece of the board when checked to, expecting to get a call from a missed A-high.
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Old 07-04-2007, 03:10 PM
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Default Re: Aces cracked...again

I often hesitate here on the turn. On one hand, there's so many draws out there so we don't want to give a free card. On the other hand, villain has called 3bet preflop and called our flop bet. There is a pretty good possibility he has a Q.

Still though, I think a bet on the turn is the right play.
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Old 07-04-2007, 04:49 PM
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Default Re: Aces cracked...again

I was wondering about the turn...not the river
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Old 07-04-2007, 05:40 PM
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I was wondering about the turn...not the river

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easiest bet ever
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