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| Doyle's fold of QQ after the flop on a board of rags vs. Reese's KK |
   
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66 | 60.00% |
| Sexton's call on the turn and the river against Matusow with bottom pair, crappy kicker |
  
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44 | 40.00% |
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#23
10-31-2007, 01:11 PM
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Re: 100NL 3bet Pot C/R
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just don't bet all these optimal lines on drawy boards just beg to maximize expectation [/ QUOTE ] 
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#24
10-31-2007, 01:12 PM
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Re: 100NL 3bet Pot C/R
except c/c then shove sucks
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#25
10-31-2007, 01:13 PM
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Re: 100NL 3bet Pot C/R
b/f is certainly fine, unless you have the odds to call a raise obv. havent worke it out.
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#26
10-31-2007, 01:18 PM
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Re: 100NL 3bet Pot C/R
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[ QUOTE ] just don't bet all these optimal lines on drawy boards just beg to maximize expectation [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] I agree with your flop check as anyone who calls a 3bet preflop is rarely folding this flop (unless we were deep). I just don't like the check-raise as villain will call often. c/c leading any turn J+ looks good. If you hit your straight i'd check again.
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#27
10-31-2007, 01:22 PM
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Re: 100NL 3bet Pot C/R
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b/f is certainly fine, unless you have the odds to call a raise obv. havent worke it out. [/ QUOTE ] b/f isn't fine at all. it's the worst possible option given our pf play. checking here looks like i'm giving up on the hand and will induce overcards/weak made hands to bet. These hands have tons of real equity vs me and some will even shove if i bet, which is horrible for us. The objective is to extract the most out of overs while at the same time increasing my fold equity. Bet/call accomplishes NONE of these objectives and is in fact the worst possible line.
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#28
10-31-2007, 01:24 PM
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Re: 100NL 3bet Pot C/R
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] just don't bet all these optimal lines on drawy boards just beg to maximize expectation [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] I agree with your flop check as anyone who calls a 3bet preflop is rarely folding this flop (unless we were deep). I just don't like the check-raise as villain will call often. c/c leading any turn J+ looks good. If you hit your straight i'd check again. [/ QUOTE ] i agree with everything except villain calling a c/r often. I'm not saying my line is the best because I think it's 2nd best. I'm saying my line is infinitely better than b/c.
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#29
10-31-2007, 01:32 PM
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Re: 100NL 3bet Pot C/R
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] just don't bet all these optimal lines on drawy boards just beg to maximize expectation [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] I agree with your flop check as anyone who calls a 3bet preflop is rarely folding this flop (unless we were deep). I just don't like the check-raise as villain will call often. c/c leading any turn J+ looks good. If you hit your straight i'd check again. [/ QUOTE ] i agree with everything except villain calling a c/r often. I'm not saying my line is the best because I think it's 2nd worst. I'm saying my line is infinitely better than b/c. [/ QUOTE ] FYP
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#30
10-31-2007, 01:35 PM
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Re: 100NL 3bet Pot C/R
Look at your opponent, it's not like he's agro. He'll fold enough to make a bet profitable and prob won't shove AK and he'll probably call just call with JJ/99
if he is agro and you have been messing about then crai is fine. c/c then shove is just terrible though.
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