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Old 06-03-2007, 07:09 AM
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I was waiting in the satellite line when the casino employee event started. The dealers were scrambling. Every dealer that I remembered to watch in my satellites scrambled.
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Old 06-05-2007, 04:43 AM
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Requiring a scramble is a no brainer. I am the last person that wants to slow down the game (I want speed poker), but having a scramble is critical.

I too would like to know what Harrahs was thinking.

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More hands per hour= more players busting out quicker = less labor cost for dealers + more players playing -EV house games (allegedly) while waiting for their friends to bust out.

That is the argument, but I think it is a bunch of crap.

PLEASE HARRAHS, let me run the WSOP next year. Please????
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Old 06-05-2007, 12:34 PM
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Trying to understand the argument here.

People are complaining that dealers are having trouble making side pots, shuffling, flashing cards, etc.

The same people are concerned that this group of newbies is going to create a slug and allow players to cheat???

You all should get 15 yards for unnecessary roughness.

I will bet that out of the 500+ dealers at WSOP, less than 2% even know WHAT A SLUG IS!!!!!!!!

What a laugh. Scrambling the deck, given the fact that this gruop of dealers couldn't cheat in an UNO game, is a complete and utter waste of time.
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Old 06-05-2007, 01:07 PM
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are you aware that one dealer can be more competent than another?
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Old 06-05-2007, 02:38 PM
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I will bet that out of the 500+ dealers at WSOP, less than 2% even know WHAT A SLUG IS!!!!!!!!


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What planet are you living on? I would say over 50% of dealers know what a "slug" is (possibly over 90%).

My bigger concern is shuffle tracking. I believe most people that think a scramble is not needed are largely ignorant with regard to shuffle tracking techniques. Maybe some people think the ability to memorize card strings and incorporate that info into likely card distributions is a skill that should be incorporated into poker, just like any other skill. I do not.

I do agree that the vast majority of dealers are honest and/or incapable of the mechanical proficiency to capitalize on poorly shuffled decks. However, it only takes a fraction of 1% to make it an issue. And the downside from a "poker scandal" could have a huge negative impact on the poker world. (Note: it is unlikely a proficient mechanic would ever be exposed).

I would rather have a scramble, and rest easy knowing the game is devoid of abuse from opportunistic players and rogue dealers alike.
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Old 06-06-2007, 12:12 PM
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Alan - you and I have met once or twice, and I found you to be a complete gentleman.

However, having been in poker for over a decade now, I would be willing to make a healthy wager that less than 5 out of 10 dealers at the WSOP this year have any idea of what a slug is, and the 5 that do could not efficiently manipulate the deck.

The initial assertion that the scramble WILL lead to an unfair advantage is patently false on its face, and the very few mechanics who could do this would 'fix' the deck with a good scramble anyway.

I simply disagree with the topic's initial assertion.

Sorry, if you polled the 500+ dealers and asked them what a slug is, there is no way on God's Earth that 400+ of them could give you a correct answer!
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Old 06-06-2007, 01:02 PM
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I'll start off by saying I'm not a dealer.

What's a slug?
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Old 06-06-2007, 01:15 PM
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Exactly!!
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Old 06-06-2007, 01:16 PM
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Default Re: What is Harrah\'s Thinking?

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Trying to understand the argument here.

People are complaining that dealers are having trouble making side pots, shuffling, flashing cards, etc.

The same people are concerned that this group of newbies is going to create a slug and allow players to cheat???

You all should get 15 yards for unnecessary roughness.

I will bet that out of the 500+ dealers at WSOP, less than 2% even know WHAT A SLUG IS!!!!!!!!

What a laugh. Scrambling the deck, given the fact that this gruop of dealers couldn't cheat in an UNO game, is a complete and utter waste of time.

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It doesn't take 500 crooked dealers to ruin the integrity of the tourney, just one.
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Old 06-06-2007, 01:18 PM
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Exactly!!

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Was a serious question - educate me... What's a slug?
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