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#11
07-14-2007, 01:10 AM
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Re: AK level 2
I can't imagine folding here. There's 630 in the pot (90 + 90 + 90 + 360) and it's 270 to call. You're getting over 2:1 to call and one or both of the people who called your raise might call. You'll have the best hand most of the time if an ace and or king comes on the flop, which will happen a little less than 1/3rd of the time (there's a good chance that at least one of the other three people has an ace). The pot's so big you'll probably stack any weaker ace or king, and you could even stack BB if he has something like QQ (he'll be pot-committed after a c-bet). With implied odds, you're even good calling KK here.
If he has AA, oh well. 
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#12
07-14-2007, 02:19 AM
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Re: AK level 2
Problems with calling here against his likely range...
Ace or King doesn't flop often enough. And if he has QQ, he's not as likely to put all his monies in on an A/K flop. This is a clear shove/fold situation to me. And I go with fold.
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#13
07-14-2007, 02:41 AM
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Re: AK level 2
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Problems with calling here against his likely range... Ace or King doesn't flop often enough. And if he has QQ, he's not as likely to put all his monies in on an A/K flop. This is a clear shove/fold situation to me. And I go with fold. [/ QUOTE ] If he c-bets an A/K high flop, he'll have to bet about 600, leaving him pretty close to pot-committed.
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#14
07-14-2007, 02:46 AM
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Re: AK level 2
With this action, we're probably up against at least one pp, and add to that the fact that anyone not having a pp is holding an out of ours against said pp. Get out with stack intact and find a better opportunity.
Edit: I should say most likely holding an out of ours...basically the callers either have a pp, Ax, or KQ most of the time, and the reraiser almost definately has JJ+ or AK.
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#15
07-14-2007, 02:47 PM
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Re: AK level 2
Call
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#17
07-14-2007, 03:14 PM
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Re: AK level 2
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Against most players I shove here, they do this way wider than you would think even in the 27s.. Also, calling is terrible. [/ QUOTE ] You would push this early in the trny? and against unknowns?
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#18
07-14-2007, 03:18 PM
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Re: AK level 2
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[ QUOTE ] Against most players I shove here, they do this way wider than you would think even in the 27s.. Also, calling is terrible. [/ QUOTE ] You would push this early in the trny? and against unknowns? [/ QUOTE ] Yes, unknowns are bad, and yes they do this with AJ+ or worse very often. I have also seen people do this and fold. I know a lot of people on here just fold, but you get looked up so wide I can't do anything but shove.
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