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Old 01-06-2007, 02:01 PM
LeadbellyDan LeadbellyDan is offline
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Default 1/2 Stars 22 on the button

Small blind is standard TAG. MP is uberloose but fairly agrro: 80/10/1.8 or so. BB is loose passive.
How do u like the flop raise??

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Preflop: Hero is Button with 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, BB calls, MP calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB bets, MP calls, BB calls, CO calls, Hero raises
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Old 01-06-2007, 02:11 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 Stars 22 on the button

I don't like. Why are you building a pot? This hand is easy to play, hit a set or fold.
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Old 01-06-2007, 02:20 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 Stars 22 on the button

flop raise seems about as bad as a flop call to me. Just let it go, fold as fast as you can. With that many still in you are beat or you will be beat.
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Old 01-06-2007, 02:20 PM
TomBrooks TomBrooks is offline
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Default Re: 1/2 Stars 22 on the button

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How do u like the flop raise??

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Hate it. Easy fold. 22 sux unless you hit a set.
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Old 01-06-2007, 02:25 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 Stars 22 on the button

I fold preflop, and I fold the flop.
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Old 01-06-2007, 02:31 PM
LeadbellyDan LeadbellyDan is offline
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Default Re: 1/2 Stars 22 on the button

Id usually fold here but heres what i was thinking. SBs gonna bet 100% on the flop and the other 2 gut will call pretty much whatever they have. This coupled with the fact that theres only one high card there made me think theres a good chance i have the best hand.
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Old 01-06-2007, 02:43 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 Stars 22 on the button

you have the worst two pair possible. Anybody could have a bigger pp then you, anybody could have a K, and most likely anybody but SB could have a 5. You may have two outs. Even if you hit your miracle card, somebody could have K5 to begin with or any 5 has the redraw to fill up with their kicker.

Do you really want to spew that much to find out if your hand will be good by the river into a crowd of 4 others?
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Old 01-06-2007, 02:44 PM
bobhalford bobhalford is offline
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Default Re: 1/2 Stars 22 on the button

I've been experimenting with preflop isolation raises in this spot a lot. I agree with folding the flop. After a bet and 3 calls, how much equity could you possibly have?
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Old 01-06-2007, 03:37 PM
Scotty. Scotty. is offline
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Default Re: 1/2 Stars 22 on the button

Dude, you are getting 2.5:1 immediate odds on your PF call and you need around 8:1 to hit your set. Easy fold PF. I don't like an isolation raise with 22 either, especially against this lineup. You will very likely be seeing a flop 3-way with 2 opponents that are very loose and will be calling flops and turns with just about anything.

As for the flop raise, I hate it. What exactly are you trying to do? You are building a big pot with a pair of 2's. No one is folding to this flop raise ever. Are you planning on betting the turn again UI? Even with the slight possibility that you are ahead, they have about a million outs combined against you.
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Old 01-06-2007, 04:25 PM
VickreyAuction VickreyAuction is offline
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Default Re: 1/2 Stars 22 on the button

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SBs gonna bet 100% on the flop

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He's betting into 4 people, so he's probably not leading with unpaired hands very often.
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