200nl - very easy situation but im lost?

wuarhg · #1 05-16-2006, 10:01 AM

villain is tag, about 25/13 or so, that's all i got because he just sat down. so lets be generous and give him a handrange of AK, AQs, AA-TT. should i have lead the flop? i have no clue about his aggression postflop. lead and fold to push doesnt feel optimal since i think he is capable of pushing draws also. and checkcall check turn is good no yes?

so that leaves, cc flop and bet/push blank turn?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

BB ($92.20)
Hero ($494.51)
MP ($197)
CO ($172.75)
Button ($260.30)
SB ($167.86)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
Hero raises to $7, MP raises to $22, 4 folds, Hero calls $15.

Flop: ($47) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $40, Hero calls $40.

Turn: ($127) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $80, MP allin, Hero calls $55.

Final Pot: $262

Phresh · #2 05-16-2006, 10:16 AM

He's not folding Aces or Kings to your turn bet and he isn't pushing AKo. He's also folding his draws unless he's a total idiot. Tough spot.

slambert · #3 05-16-2006, 10:16 AM

lead flop. If he makes a big raise, u might be able to lay this down.

if ur going to lead turn, just push.

Given that range, u gotta get it all in here.

wuarhg · #4 05-16-2006, 10:19 AM

I am not sure about the range, but I figure this is standard for laggish tags? And on the flop if he has A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], AA, KK he is pushing if I lead. But I guess I can pretty much fold there because i'm either a coinflip or crushed.

GOD et_al · #5 05-16-2006, 10:21 AM

I think the only hand you can really beat here is Jacks, given the way this hand went down. I don't think he would really push his draw thinking you might fold it for that price...

slambert · #6 05-16-2006, 10:22 AM

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I am not sure about the range, but I figure this is standard for laggish tags? And on the flop if he has A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], AA, KK he is pushing if I lead. But I guess I can pretty much fold there because i'm either a coinflip or crushed.

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whats a laggish tag? someone who can mixup their game? If u readjust his range to AhKh, AhQh, AA, KK then u should know what to do.

junkmail3 · #7 05-16-2006, 10:22 AM

By the time you lead the turn for 80 - you've commited yourself, you can't fold for $55 more.

So, you need to find out sooner, or cheaper.

Being OOP, I would either 4bet preflop or lead the flop and take it from there.

ArturiusX · #8 05-16-2006, 10:23 AM

Put MP all in on the turn.

wuarhg · #9 05-16-2006, 10:27 AM

Yeah I think I trapped myself in this hand. If I lead flop and he pushes I fold because he isn't pushing Jacks on the flop. If he calls I can fire again on turn.

But as it was, yes I commited myself and I really didn't like this hand at all. Bet-fold flop is best line here?

junkmail3 · #10 05-16-2006, 10:32 AM

If I was villian with JJ - I would raise the flop if you bet.