nl 10 i want to fold kk

Hebel · #1 10-28-2007, 02:36 PM

pretty sure im beat here, villains line looks like a monster. But does he have enough for me to fold?
Also, who checks behind on the turn? I felt I had to bet because of all the draws

villains first hand at the table
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

MP ($9.20)
Hero ($17.65)
SB ($9.85)
BB ($5)
UTG ($30.40)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.35, 1 fold, BB calls $0.25.

Flop: ($0.75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.55, BB calls $0.55.

Turn: ($1.85) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.75, BB raises to $4.1, Hero?

infinity235 · #2 10-28-2007, 02:41 PM

When you bet the turn (putting in like half villain's stack), you committed. Or didn't you? Anyways, any reads on villain? Stats?

This should be a call, anyways.

whoshotfirst · #3 10-28-2007, 02:44 PM

I would bet pot on that flop, don't know if it matters, or if it's a good idea though. The fact that he sat down with 1/2 bi and that it's his first hand makes this a really sick spot imo. I don't know what's best I might fold here.

RockRattler · #4 10-28-2007, 02:50 PM

no way im folding this for 50BB

genius55 · #5 10-28-2007, 02:51 PM

Hey Hebel,

On the turn you must call getting $10-$2 odds on your money with KK vs a shortstack on a NON-threatening board.

yes i know you consider the paired board scary, however this is in fact a GOOD board for KK due to absence of str8/flush/2pr possibilites.

of course sometimes he has a ten, but u must call anyway. I'm sure he has it less than 4/5 times which is all u need in order for your call to be profitable.

g

Shattered · #6 10-28-2007, 04:42 PM

Never, ever, ever check behind turn here. It's a semiconnected two flush board where a lot of draws connect with villain's range.

Anyways, I never fold KK heads up for 50 BB unless an ace flops. Villain's line screams strength but you're getting 3:1 with a strong hand. I do fold this here if you were 100 BB deep, though.

MrWooster · #7 10-28-2007, 04:52 PM

I agree with Shattered

I think you are behind a lot here but you have to call given the odds you are getting.

Hebel · #8 10-28-2007, 05:30 PM

pretty much my thinking. i said "here, take it" into chat, called, and lost to 8s full. for 100 bbs though i think this is a definite fold