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Old 11-05-2007, 07:23 AM
rwdvc rwdvc is offline
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Default Weird River Spot

So if we ignore my admittedly retarded donk reraise on the turn, I don't know what I was thinking, what do we do with this river?

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 4 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $45.35
SB: $17.80
Hero (BB): $25.55
UTG: $42.10

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
2 folds, SB calls $0.15, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $0.30</font>, SB calls $0.30

Turn: ($1.10) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $0.75</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.50</font>, SB calls $0.75

River: ($4.10) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $5</font>
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Old 11-05-2007, 07:30 AM
ShipitFMA ShipitFMA is offline
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Default Re: Weird River Spot

Why does everyone completely dismiss their terrible plays when they post on 2p2? Raise the turn to around 3. As played i it looks as though he has the King, but its read dependant.
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Old 11-05-2007, 07:32 AM
rwdvc rwdvc is offline
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Default Re: Weird River Spot

I'm not completely dismissing my terrible play. It was, well, terrible. I'm saying I made a terrible play, now what should I do with the rest of the hand?
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Old 11-05-2007, 07:38 AM
matt nover matt nover is offline
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Default Re: Weird River Spot

readless I fold. Looks like he was slowplaying his K on the flop. Definitely have to find out where you are with a bigger raise on the turn. Make it $3 or $3.25 and you should quickly find out where you are.
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Old 11-05-2007, 08:46 AM
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Default Re: Weird River Spot

I would make the raise a lot bigger on the turn, minraising just gives him good pot odds to call with any 2 live cards and draw out. You were most likely ahead on the turn, but I think you'll have to fold river.
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Old 11-05-2007, 09:30 AM
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Default Re: Weird River Spot

flop: bet the full pot
turn: if he still donks into you, pop it to 4 or so
river: yuck, he's prob got a king and you probably have to fold

In my experience, we want to get the most value out of these kinds of hands before we get to the river. Your opponent clearly doesn't play well (evidence: the uber-small donk on the turn), so take advantage of his calling tendencies by betting larger.
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Old 11-05-2007, 09:42 AM
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Hes not bluffing and unless you know he is an idiot this is not 3x, so fold.
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Old 11-05-2007, 10:05 AM
Phildo Phildo is offline
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Default Re: Weird River Spot

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readless I fold. Looks like he was slowplaying his K on the flop. Definitely have to find out where you are with a bigger raise on the turn. Make it $3 or $3.25 and you should quickly find out where you are.

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You do not need to find you where you are on the turn. You know where you are: you have a boat and are only losing to KK and AA which are highly, highly unlikely. You raise the turn for value.
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I would make the raise a lot bigger on the turn, minraising just gives him good pot odds to call with any 2 live cards and draw out. You were most likely ahead on the turn, but I think you'll have to fold river.

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If he is drawing it is to two outs, so minraising is not giving him odds to draw.

Edit: Raise preflop. Don't let SB open limp your BB. And yeah, I'm folding here.
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Old 11-05-2007, 10:39 AM
Jamougha Jamougha is offline
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Default Re: Weird River Spot

Raise preflop, more on the flop, and more on the turn.

compared to those decisions the river has a trivial impact on your winrate. It's probably a fold.
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