nl2000 KK

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2000 USD stacks both

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $70</font>, 3 folds, CO calls, 3 folds.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($170, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $120</font>, CO calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($410, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $200</font>, CO calls.

River: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($810, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $450</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: $1710



i think this i so standard but i have not much experience with a fullring game. Sometimes i am really suprised about peoples play. villians stats 14/6/1
The line he took...i dunno
even if this is a standard if want to hear opinions about his HAND RANGE.

[AllTheCheese]

Fold river, I think.

His hand range when he calls the flop and turn is [44-JJ]. There's really no reason for him to half pot bluff river with 77 here, and he's not aggro enough to make a move like that anyway.

Aside: If he had 44 or 55, I think he was correct to not raise the turn. Usually you have the type of hand you had and are bet/folding on that turn.

[moldman]

Any reads here?
I'm pretty sure I lean towards bet/fold on the river, although I take this line sometimes, but usually on a more drawy board. On the flop, I'd put most people on 44, 55, 88-QQ, with it being a tad more weighted to the lower side, as I think QQ repops preflop a lot, and you'd think an overpair would lead or raise this flop. Your small turn bet might look like a weak double barrel from AK/AQ and he might think his 88 is still good.

Now on the river though, you check and he bets. By checking, you're pretty much hoping to induce a bluff and are calling, otherwise you should be betting. The board isn't really draw heavy though, so I don't really understand his bet on the river. If he thought you missed your overcards, why is he betting? Like I said, reads would really help in assigning a range to him, but assuming a decent player, I'm calling here because of the price though and would expect to be shown JJ 40% of the time and QQ 40% of the time, and 44-55 about 15% of the time. That leaves about a 2% chance of TT and 3% chance of AA-KK.

At least somewhere around there. Of course, I'm often an idiot, so take it all with a grain of salt.


EDIT: I missed the villain's stats in your post. Having seen that, it's much closer to a fold. He probably checks behind with QQ here considering the 1 AF. You're looking at 44, 55, TT or JJ here the majority of the time.

[AllTheCheese]

People have low self-esteem on this forum.

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People have low self-esteem on this forum.

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explain plz

[AllTheCheese]

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Of course, I'm often an idiot, so take it all with a grain of salt.


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And there are a bunch of posts like this. Need to build up that self-condfidence.

[moldman]

I think he was referring to me calling myself an idiot.

It was really just a way of saying that at NL200 where I play, that's what I'd expect to see, but have no clue about stakes 10x that.

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Would a JJ/QQ bet the river? What amount?

Would KTs/ATs/any FH raise the turn here?

[too eazy]

Bet more on turn.

Pretty standard though.

[livestream]

Why should i bet more on turn? no real draws and i create a bigger pot on the river.