Ugh- Easy Fold?

getitfixed · #1 09-07-2007, 10:15 AM

Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $218.90
CO: $243.20
Button: $653.45
SB: $513.15
HERO: $240

Pre-flop: (5 players) HERO is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, CO calls, Button raises to $9, SB calls, HERO calls, CO calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($36, 4 players)
SB checks, HERO checks, CO checks, Button checks.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($36, 4 players)
SB checks, HERO checks, CO bets $32, Button calls, SB folds, HERO calls.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($132, 3 players)
HERO checks, CO bets $112, Button calls.

HERO?? Vomits and folds?

Triantafylidis · #2 09-07-2007, 10:19 AM

first off why the hell are you checking that flop. Are you that scared of a 6 here? Maybe their ranges include a 6 i guess but idk.
As played, riv is an easy fold.

wazz · #3 09-07-2007, 10:22 AM

River is far from an easy fold. Much easier if the board was 666QK or something like that. You have the 3rd nuts, button looks to have queens or kings, CO could be legitimately betting for value with the same hands or attempting the toughest river bluff kown to man. You can't worry about the button call, so the normal logic about having a caller already lessening the value of your hand goes out the window and you just have to wonder whether CO is betting a 6 or not. Enough of the time he's not, so I call the river.

getitfixed · #4 09-07-2007, 10:24 AM

The BTB flat call of the button is what tossed me for a loop.... I call CO 90% of the time here HU, but I was REALLY confused by the buttons play

jbird · #5 09-07-2007, 10:29 AM

It IS ok to still reraise good aces out of the blinds these days, you know.

Given how passively you have played this hand, it makes the river REALLY tough.

On the one hand your average villain doesn't pot very light into two players after being called in two spots on the turn with this board. On the other hand with nobody showing any strength whatsoever he may be betting his KK / QQ for value.

I tend to give the guy credit in spots like this and fold, but it is far from an easy fold given the way you have diguised your hand.

jbird · #6 09-07-2007, 10:31 AM

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The BTB flat call of the button is what tossed me for a loop.... I call CO 90% of the time here HU, but I was REALLY confused by the buttons play

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If button has quads he's going to raise that river nearly always. I'm not worried about button, I'm worried about CO.

sc000t · #7 09-07-2007, 10:49 AM

I agree with Jbird.

Also, I'd repot this preflop nearly always.

Triantafylidis · #8 09-07-2007, 10:50 AM

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The BTB flat call of the button is what tossed me for a loop.... I call CO 90% of the time here HU, but I was REALLY confused by the buttons play

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If button has quads he's going to raise that river nearly always. I'm not worried about button, I'm worried about CO.

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He may flat call hoping hero calls as well. I've seen this done many times

jbird · #9 09-07-2007, 10:53 AM

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He may flat call hoping hero calls as well. I've seen this done many times

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post the hands plz.

I understand this is the argument / logic, it's just that in over 200k hands, I've literally never seen it.

Triantafylidis · #10 09-07-2007, 10:54 AM

bah how the hell can i dig up those hands.... Youve never seen someone flat call with the absolute nuts trying to induce more calls????? U need to play more live games [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]