Absolute Soulreading/Rigged thread #3

[johnnycakes]

I played that $1K tourney, but only 6 hands w/ Payup.
Here are the 2 of the 6 that he did not fold preflop.

STAGE #867176000 TOURNEY ID 1873059 HOLDEM MULTI NORMAL TOURNAMENT NO LIMIT $1000 - 2007-08-22 23:37:25 (ET)
Table: 8 (Real Money) Seat #1 is the dealer
Seat 1 - BBEEZZER ($26947 in chips)
Seat 2 - _ZAYA_ ($30950 in chips)
Seat 3 - PAYUP ($50575 in chips)
Seat 4 - johnnycakes ($12590 in chips)
Seat 5 - RDCRSN ($17230 in chips)
Seat 6 - BOOBOOBEAR09 ($9265 in chips)
Seat 7 - JUICEB0X ($27430 in chips)
Seat 8 - GSP11 ($22185 in chips)
Seat 9 - LAURRRA ($20535 in chips)
BBEEZZER - Ante $100
_ZAYA_ - Ante $100
PAYUP - Ante $100
johnnycakes - Ante $100
RDCRSN - Ante $100
BOOBOOBEAR09 - Ante $100
JUICEB0X - Ante $100
GSP11 - Ante $100
LAURRRA - Ante $100
_ZAYA_ - Posts small blind $500
PAYUP - Posts big blind $1000
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to johnnycakes [5s 4c]
johnnycakes - Folds
RDCRSN - Folds
BOOBOOBEAR09 - Folds
JUICEB0X - Folds
GSP11 - Folds
LAURRRA - Folds
BBEEZZER - Folds
_ZAYA_ - Calls $500
PAYUP - Raises $3000 to $4000
_ZAYA_ - Folds
PAYUP - returned ($3000) : not called
*** SHOW DOWN ***
PAYUP - Does not show
PAYUP Collects $2900 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($2900)
Seat 1: BBEEZZER (dealer) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 2: _ZAYA_ (small blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 3: PAYUP (big blind) collected Total ($2900)
Seat 4: johnnycakes Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 5: RDCRSN Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 6: BOOBOOBEAR09 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 7: JUICEB0X Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 8: GSP11 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 9: LAURRRA Folded on the POCKET CARDS




STAGE #867169816 TOURNEY ID 1873059 HOLDEM MULTI NORMAL TOURNAMENT NO LIMIT $1000 - 2007-08-22 23:32:55 (ET)
Table: 8 (Real Money) Seat #6 is the dealer
Seat 1 - BBEEZZER ($28847 in chips)
Seat 2 - UGOTSHIPPED ($8550 in chips)
Seat 3 - PAYUP ($40225 in chips)
Seat 4 - johnnycakes ($5995 in chips)
Seat 6 - BOOBOOBEAR09 ($7365 in chips)
Seat 7 - JUICEB0X ($28330 in chips)
Seat 8 - GSP11 ($24085 in chips)
Seat 9 - LAURRRA ($27230 in chips)
BBEEZZER - Ante $100
UGOTSHIPPED - Ante $100
PAYUP - Ante $100
johnnycakes - Ante $100
BOOBOOBEAR09 - Ante $100
JUICEB0X - Ante $100
GSP11 - Ante $100
LAURRRA - Ante $100
JUICEB0X - Posts small blind $500
GSP11 - Posts big blind $1000
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to johnnycakes [Jc Kc]
LAURRRA - Folds
BBEEZZER - Folds
UGOTSHIPPED - All-In(Raise) $8450 to $8450
PAYUP - Calls $8450
johnnycakes - Folds
BOOBOOBEAR09 - Folds
JUICEB0X - Folds
GSP11 - Folds
*** FLOP *** [Ac 2h 7d]
*** TURN *** [Ac 2h 7d] [7s]
*** RIVER *** [Ac 2h 7d 7s] [10d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
UGOTSHIPPED - Shows [Js Qh] (One pair, sevens)
PAYUP - Shows [8h 8c] (Two Pair, eights and sevens)
PAYUP Collects $19200 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($19200)
Board [Ac 2h 7d 7s 10d]
Seat 1: BBEEZZER Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 2: UGOTSHIPPED HI:lost with One pair, sevens [Js Qh - B:7s,B:7d,B:Ac,P:Qh,P:Js]
Seat 3: PAYUP won Total ($19200) HI$19200) with Two Pair, eights and sevens [8h 8c - P:8h,P:8c,B:7s,B:7d,B:Ac]
Seat 4: johnnycakes Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 6: BOOBOOBEAR09 (dealer) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 7: JUICEB0X (small blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 8: GSP11 (big blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 9: LAURRRA Folded on the POCKET CARDS

[ur2barredout]

boycott ap=good idea.

[vaNq]

Any guesses as to what percentage of Absolute players will still play on the site and know nothing about what went on?
95%?

[nole91]

It would be interesting to find the bustout hands in the previous high buyin tourneys for the cheating accounts. Obv sucked out or called by a hero with marginal.

[ZOMG_RIGGED!]

If I were on eof those players who lost $50K+ to one of these guys and I didnt get recouped or some osrt of sexy apology. I'd spent a couple days making sure everyone knew about it

[bigslicknuts]

Might not be of much help but got affiliate newsletter from AP today and it contained this info:

"Absolute Poker and the Absolute Poker website are solely owned and operated by Tokwiro Enterprises ENRG, Route 138, Kahnawake, Quebec J0L 1B0. Tokwiro Enterprises ENRG is owned by a Mohawk of Kahnawake and is operated from the sovereign nation of the Mohawks of Kahnawake, located near Montreal Quebec. The Mohawks of Kahnawake have an aboriginal right to conduct online gaming that is recognized and protected by the Canadian Constitution.

Absolute Poker is licensed by the Kahnawake Gaming Commission that enforces regulations designed to ensure, amongst other goals, that: (1) only suitable persons/entities operate within Kahnawake; (2) all games offered are fair to the player; and (3) all winners are paid. "

[G_Becks]

What is the logic behind them entering tournaments and clearly trying to be the first few out? Is this a sign of obvious chip dumping or simply a cover up for the later big score?

[ur2barredout]

Gbecks I think most believe the cheating did not start until the new ap interface was out.

[Gildwulf]

[ QUOTE ]



Payups PokerDB....

Date Buyin Tournament/Event Place Entrants Winnings

9/7/2007 $50 NL Hold'em 40 235 —

8/25/2007 $500 NL Hold'em 248 306 —

8/22/2007 $1,000 NL Hold'em 1 119 $35,700.00

8/18/2007 $500 NL Hold'em 248 365 —

8/14/2007 $100 NL Hold'em 20 85 —

8/14/2007 $50 NL Hold'em 63 136 —

8/13/2007 $3 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 628 713 —

8/9/2007 $10 NL Hold'em 54 121 —

6/20/2007 $1,000 NL Hold'em 28 94 —

6/4/2007 $10 NL Hold'em 51 134 —

6/1/2007 $3 NL Hold'em 6 19 —

5/30/2007 $3 NL Hold'em 3 16 —

5/22/2007 $3 NL Hold'em 2 13 $12.00

5/14/2007 $30 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 165 207 —

5/10/2007 $25 NL Hold'em 225 315 —

5/9/2007 $20 NL Hold'em 59 85 —

5/1/2007 $25 NL Hold'em 114 299 —

3/22/2007 $5 NL Hold'em 328 396 —

3/21/2007 $3 NL Hold'em 27 29 —

3/20/2007 $5 NL Hold'em 219 426 —

3/20/2007 $3 NL Hold'em 35 42 —

[/ QUOTE ]

lol this looks like my tourney database last year back when I played tourneys on PTY. lose, lose, lose, lose, ZOMG, lose, lose

[pokerstudAA]

At this point it looks like Absolute discovered the PAYUP account before everyone here did. They must have some information on how these accounts were "cheating" - otherwise they would not have discovered PAYUP - unless someone here let them know. At least they are doing some research without the help of the angry mob.

It also looks like these were fairly unused/low limit accounts prior to the recent update. Somewhere around the middle of August. Anyone have an exact date on this?


PS - Who was talking about this at TOKYOHANA in HOUSTON, TX last night?? Out yourself plz....