flop set oop now lets plan

hamnegger · #1 10-03-2007, 08:55 PM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

UTG+1 (t2350)
MP1 (t2845)
MP2 (t1335)
MP3 (t1600)
CO (t3275)
Button (t1225)
SB (t535)
Hero (t2205)
UTG (t990)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t150, 1 fold, MP2 calls t150, 4 folds, Hero calls t100.

Flop: (t475) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero

1. leads for?
2. check calls against 1 opponent
3. check raises against 1 or 2 opponents.

BarryLyndon · #2 10-03-2007, 08:58 PM

Leads for 300 because AJ/KJ/QJ/99/Q10/QQ/KK/AA/J10 will all gladly stack off/call and the last thing you want is to overrep your set with a CR or to have it checked around and have a 9 or 10 hit, thereby killing your action or only giving you two streets to get it all in. Easy lead.

Coz · #3 10-03-2007, 09:05 PM

I think against two opponents a check raise would be best because I think that way we get as much money as possible out of the hand. Plus if someone has something like AJ, or KJ, he is probably shoving over your raise. Against 1 opponent I like a check call because it widens your range. You could have a seven, an 8, a straight draw, and if a scare card dosen't hit on the turn you could make a lot of money by inducing a bet from someone who floated you or has a J 7 8 or another pair like 99 TT or something like KQ. Even if a scare card does come you might be able to induce another bluff on the river with a check on the turn. I would only lead if you have been very aggressive recently because that will look less suspicious and encourage some action. I would probably lead for 260-300 if that was the case.

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hamnegger · #4 10-03-2007, 11:02 PM

i think its interesting bc it can be played a few ways none of which is bad. i checked w intention of calling flop or raising if it went bet/call or bet/raise. mp2 led i called other villain folded. the turn was a 6 so i just put him all in (he didn't have too much) he folded.i think a lead may have been better

Coz · #5 10-04-2007, 12:42 AM

I think I agree with Barry if the tourney had a higher buy in, but from my experience, I know alot of crappy players are still shoving over with top pair or an over pair against a c/r. I thought you might get more value out of the hand if one of the villians raised first. Especially since on a flop like this I very rarley see it being checked all the way around.