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Old 11-16-2007, 12:30 PM
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Default Re: NL 200: possible to fold a set in this spot

Because CO doesn't have a set obviously. Probably at best.
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Old 11-16-2007, 12:31 PM
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Default Re: NL 200: possible to fold a set in this spot

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Because CO doesn't have a set obviously. Probably at best.

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Range, please.
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Old 11-16-2007, 12:33 PM
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Default Re: NL 200: possible to fold a set in this spot

AK/AA/hearts/K8, just cuz he's a TAG doesn't mean he's good. Furthermore most tag's are going to bet a set on this flop, if he has anything that beats us he has KK
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Old 11-16-2007, 12:36 PM
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Default Re: NL 200: possible to fold a set in this spot

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AK/AA/hearts/K8, just cuz he's a TAG doesn't mean he's good. Furthermore most tag's are going to bet a set on this flop, if he has anything that beats us he has KK

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i don't think we'll see AA here hardly ever with the action and he'll never have K8. i agree that if he has 88 here he's betting the flop but i don't think it's too unrealistic for him to check KK.
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Old 11-16-2007, 12:37 PM
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Default Re: NL 200: possible to fold a set in this spot

OP said he was a good TAG, I was going off of that.
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Old 11-16-2007, 12:39 PM
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Default Re: NL 200: possible to fold a set in this spot

This is AA>>>KQ>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>KK>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>QQ Imo.

Sucks that u lost, but I would play is the same. 22 on the Broadway Broadway Two flop, facing a pfr that wants to go all in is AWESOME.
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Old 11-16-2007, 12:39 PM
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Default Re: NL 200: possible to fold a set in this spot

imo if he's the type of guy who checks top set here, he is equally likely to check middle set too. its not like hes going to bet middle set because he is more afraid of having the 2nd best hand or being sucked out on.
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Old 11-16-2007, 12:41 PM
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Default Re: NL 200: possible to fold a set in this spot

C'mon, we're getting like 3:2 on the push and only need 40% equity when called. That's exactly our equity against this range: AKs, KK, 88, AQhh. And I guess this is the worst we can come up with. Plus: I don't see why a TAG shouldn't be able to openraise K8s in the CO.
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Old 11-16-2007, 12:56 PM
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Default Re: NL 200: possible to fold a set in this spot

Villain's stats are: 19/15/3.x/23 after 300 hands


my check-raise seems like I have a good hand. So what is his range to push it?

AK? -> he would make a cbet imo --> NOT in his range
AA? -> possible
K8? -> maybe...
KK 88 -> ?

I dunno if he push that with flushdraw. Dont think so
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Old 11-16-2007, 12:57 PM
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Default Re: NL 200: possible to fold a set in this spot

I really really doubt he checks K8 on this flop. Really doubt it.

Seems to me like everyone is grasping for scenarios where we can call because ZOMG WE HAZ A SET. 1st level thinking + justification.

I could be wrong, but IMO we should fold here. Assuming the opponent is a good TAG. This is the key. Against anyone else I get all in.
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