100NL TPTK oop against reg.

1968 · #1 11-25-2007, 11:09 AM

I am UTG in this hand..
Villain is 16/10/3 (90 hands)
Problem being my hand is relatively 'face up'..

$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($103.05)
UTG+1 ($98.00)
CO ($99.60)
BTN ($126.65)
SB ($21.05)
BB ($151.00)

Dealt UTG: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Pre-flop: ($1.5, 6 players)
UTG raises to $4, 2 folds, BTN calls $4, 2 folds

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($9.5, 2 players)
UTG bets $6, BTN raises to $18, UTG calls $12

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($45.5, 2 players)
UTG checks, BTN bets $35, [i]

the machine · #2 11-25-2007, 11:17 AM

i hate c/r, either c/c or b/f.

also id bet w tad more on this flop as a default. probably more like 8

jordiepop · #3 11-25-2007, 11:26 AM

i freeze up on the flop .. can we b/f the turn and be happy about it,,, is a check fold weak

1968 · #4 11-25-2007, 11:32 AM

my image is tag- so I cant see me beating much except AQ. this has to be AJ minimum against villain surely?..
KQcc maybe?

Poker Gestalt · #5 11-25-2007, 11:50 AM

Is it unreasonalbe to fold the flop in situations like this? I mean if you pretty much know that villain wouldn't take this line without a set or something strong.. Like you said only thing in his range your beating is AQ.. or is flop call mandatory and then re-evaluate turn.. I fold turn as played.

the machine · #6 11-25-2007, 11:55 AM

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Is it unreasonalbe to fold the flop in situations like this? I mean if you pretty much know that villain wouldn't take this line without a set or something strong.. Like you said only thing in his range your beating is AQ.. or is flop call mandatory and then re-evaluate turn.. I fold turn as played.

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if you fold a blank turn then why not fold the flop.
call=passive,
check=passive.

villain infers this as weakness, bets. no way we can fold if we check here, and if we do we should fold the flop. im not calling to make sure hell bet the turn when i check it to him before i fold my hand. thats pissing money away

jordiepop · #7 11-25-2007, 11:57 AM

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Is it unreasonalbe to fold the flop in situations like this? I mean if you pretty much know that villain wouldn't take this line without a set or something strong.. Like you said only thing in his range your beating is AQ.. or is flop call mandatory and then re-evaluate turn.. I fold turn as played.

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if you fold a blank turn then why not fold the flop.
call=passive,
check=passive.

villain infers this as weakness, bets. no way we can fold if we check here, and if we do we should fold the flop. im not calling to make sure hell bet the turn when i check it to him before i fold my hand. thats pissing money away

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so u just fold the flop in this spot>?

the machine · #8 11-25-2007, 11:59 AM

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Is it unreasonalbe to fold the flop in situations like this? I mean if you pretty much know that villain wouldn't take this line without a set or something strong.. Like you said only thing in his range your beating is AQ.. or is flop call mandatory and then re-evaluate turn.. I fold turn as played.

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if you fold a blank turn then why not fold the flop.
call=passive,
check=passive.

villain infers this as weakness, bets. no way we can fold if we check here, and if we do we should fold the flop. im not calling to make sure hell bet the turn when i check it to him before i fold my hand. thats pissing money away

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so u just fold the flop in this spot>?

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[censored] no. villain is tight but hes aggro. he def could be raising the flop with worse here. as played i call the turn. b/f is ok too cause hes probably not doing it with worse. it just sucks when he has some sick combo draw like QTcc that he decides to go apeshit with

1968 · #9 11-25-2007, 12:03 PM

the more I look at this hand the more I wanna just shove the flop..

jlocdog · #10 11-25-2007, 01:10 PM

This thread is turning borederline retardo....sorry but its true.

Your hand is not face up. Why can't you have a multitude of Ax hands. Why cant you have clubs? A set? A straight draw? More importantly, why can't he? Get freaking real here people....