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Old 10-26-2007, 01:17 PM
FoxwoodsFiend FoxwoodsFiend is offline
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Default HU 30/60 vs NMcNasty: Made Hand Turned Into a Bluff

I'm trying to learn the ways of HU limit. NMcNasty is a tough, very good player that I'm definitely a dog against. We've been playing very aggro but he's definitely been running me over to some extent.

Obviously my hand has some showdown value so if he'll never fold better I should call but I figured just in case he was making a thin value bet with two pair and could find a fold I might as well throw in the extra bet to take the pot.

Or does anybody fold on this river?

Comments on all streets appreciated.

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Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">Hero raises</font>, BB calls

Flop: (4 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets</font>, <font color="red">BB raises</font>, <font color="red">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="red">BB caps</font>, Hero calls

Turn: (6 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets</font>, Hero calls

River: (8 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises</font>,
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Old 10-26-2007, 01:58 PM
hoppscot22 hoppscot22 is offline
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Default Re: HU 30/60 vs NMcNasty: Made Hand Turned Into a Bluff

umm

i think it probably goes fold&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;call&gt;&gt;raise...

raising seems pretty bad
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Old 10-26-2007, 02:48 PM
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Default Re: HU 30/60 vs NMcNasty: Made Hand Turned Into a Bluff

You're turn call gave you up. Just call this river at best.
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Old 10-26-2007, 03:08 PM
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Default Re: HU 30/60 vs NMcNasty: Made Hand Turned Into a Bluff

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You're turn call gave you up. Just call this river at best.

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??? obviously i'm repping a ten and i think he could be value betting a 9. is betting w/a 9 here standard? if so is it normally bet/call?
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Old 10-26-2007, 03:12 PM
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Default Re: HU 30/60 vs NMcNasty: Made Hand Turned Into a Bluff

I'd just fold. Trying to blugg people off a made hand in big pots in HULHE generally does not lead to wealth.
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Old 10-26-2007, 03:38 PM
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Default Re: HU 30/60 vs NMcNasty: Made Hand Turned Into a Bluff

i see what you are trying to do, however it won't work. If you look at it from his perspective, would you ever bet this river with the intention of folding to a raise?
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Old 10-30-2007, 09:02 AM
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Default Re: HU 30/60 vs NMcNasty: Made Hand Turned Into a Bluff

i think the 3 clubs will induce a call more often than a dry board will, hes never calling when you're ahead so theres really no value here accept for straight up steals and i think this only works when: A. he doesnt have it. and B. if he feels he can make a big fold

im assuming it (folding) is not gonna happen more often than not, considering you have been playing rather aggressively thus far
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Old 10-30-2007, 09:17 AM
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Default Re: HU 30/60 vs NMcNasty: Made Hand Turned Into a Bluff

way the wrong forum. you were lucky to get as many good SH online players responding here as you did.

oh and imo you are more likely to get a call from jx8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] than a fold from J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]9x. The T or 5 are better bluff cards anyhow (not that it'll work there either).
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Old 10-30-2007, 10:43 AM
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Default Re: HU 30/60 vs NMcNasty: Made Hand Turned Into a Bluff

Pretty rare to see someone put in that much action and then fold any hand they bet on the river.
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Old 10-30-2007, 11:34 AM
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Default Re: HU 30/60 vs NMcNasty: Made Hand Turned Into a Bluff

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I'm trying to learn the ways of HU limit. NMcNasty is a tough, very good player that I'm definitely a dog against. We've been playing very aggro but he's definitely been running me over to some extent.

Obviously my hand has some showdown value so if he'll never fold better I should call but I figured just in case he was making a thin value bet with two pair and could find a fold I might as well throw in the extra bet to take the pot.

Or does anybody fold on this river?

Comments on all streets appreciated.

Full Tilt Poker, $30/$60 Limit Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">Hero raises</font>, BB calls

Flop: (4 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets</font>, <font color="red">BB raises</font>, <font color="red">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="red">BB caps</font>, Hero calls

Turn: (6 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets</font>, Hero calls

River: (8 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises</font>,

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I don't like the river raise. Too many things beat you now and none of them are folding. All you beat is a pair of sevens. A straight, a flush, and a nine (or five) are all calling. I call.
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