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Old 08-17-2007, 08:11 AM
TheWorstPlayer TheWorstPlayer is offline
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Default Re: Preflop against a squeezing fslexcduck

if she CBs every time, even if she calls my push with any pair (which I dont think she does - let's get real, she's not calling a KJ6 push) it's +EV to call to get her CB since she only outflops me less than 1/3 and I'm risking like $800 more to win $400 more or whatever.
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Old 08-17-2007, 08:11 AM
Janis N. Janis N. is offline
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FWIW a quote from another post by BobboFitos:[ QUOTE ]
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Is it normal to call a presumably light 3bet light in order to raise most flops?

[/ QUOTE ]if you dont like money, sure

[/ QUOTE ]Hero had a worse, but less likely dominated hand there (98o) though.
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Old 08-17-2007, 08:14 AM
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look, her range is NOT 23o+. its just not. she also doesnt cbet 100% as ur line is something she will be suspicious of. especially since u want to win every pot.
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Old 08-17-2007, 08:29 AM
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look, her range is NOT 23o+. its just not. she also doesnt cbet 100% as ur line is something she will be suspicious of. especially since u want to win every pot.

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That just doesnt add anything.

Anyways, if she has T9s or something like that, she would fold pre to a shove (right?), but she would stack off on any flop with a decent pair/draw.

Also I think shoving is better for metagame purposes.
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Old 08-17-2007, 08:40 AM
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uh ofcourse it does. it should range her hand range rather drastically.

"Anyways, if she has T9s or something like that, she would fold pre to a shove (right?), but she would stack off on any flop with a decent pair/draw. "

this is just retarded. hope u see why.
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Old 08-17-2007, 08:44 AM
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Default Re: Preflop against a squeezing fslexcduck

luego is the only one making sense in this thread
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Old 08-17-2007, 09:21 AM
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uh ofcourse it does. it should range her hand range rather drastically.

[/ QUOTE ]By widening her ranges (because TWPs ranges are wide) thus making AQo less foldable in this spot? Or do you think that means she will not 3bet light as she knows she's very likely to be stacking off postflop against TWP?

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"Anyways, if she has T9s or something like that, she would fold pre to a shove (right?), but she would stack off on any flop with a decent pair/draw. "

this is just retarded. hope u see why.

[/ QUOTE ]I may be retarded, but I don't see why she wouldn't be more likely to stack off with a pair on the flop rather than preflop with T9s.

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 68.815% 68.55% 00.27% 295775760 1161834.00 { TT+, AJs+, AQo+ }
Hand 1: 31.185% 30.92% 00.27% 133401180 1161834.00 { T9s }

Board: Tc 2s 7d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 45.632% 45.63% 00.00% 82672 0.00 { TT+, AJs+, AQo+ }
Hand 1: 54.368% 54.37% 00.00% 98498 0.00 { T9s }
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Old 08-17-2007, 09:23 AM
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Default Re: Preflop against a squeezing fslexcduck

jesus

YOU DONT WANT HER TO STACK OFF IF SHE HITS A PAIR
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Old 08-17-2007, 09:28 AM
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luego is the only one making sense in this thread

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I think I advocated exactly what Luego was saying throughout this thread as well. And I was first [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 08-17-2007, 09:31 AM
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[ QUOTE ]
jesus

YOU DONT WANT HER TO STACK OFF IF SHE HITS A PAIR

[/ QUOTE ]UNLESS WE HIT A BIGGER PAIR LDO

Anyway, I thought you meant something else than you actually meant with your "this is just retarded. hope u see why." quote. Never mind.
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