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Old 08-16-2007, 11:25 PM
TheWorstPlayer TheWorstPlayer is offline
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Default Preflop against a squeezing fslexcduck

Vanessa and I know each other well and have talked about poker a fair amount. She knows my game pretty well and I know what she is capable of, but honestly don't have a great read on her. We've tangled a bit before, but I think it's mostly me sucking out or her beating me. The only significant hand we've played tonight is this one:

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $5/$10
5 players
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Stack sizes:
TWP: $1000
CO: $1057
Button: $1368
SB: $1166
BB: $282

Pre-flop: (5 players) TWP is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">TWP raises to $40</font>, CO folds, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($95, 2 players)
TWP checks, Button checks.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($95, 2 players)
TWP checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $70</font>, TWP calls.

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($235, 2 players)
TWP checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $140</font>, TWP calls.

where I beat her A6 no flush. Not sure what that river bet says about the way she sees my game, but I think it's interesting. In any case, as I said, I don't have a good read on her. So here's the hand I have a question about:

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $10/$20
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $6127
UTG+1: $1960
TWP: $2262
Button: $2030
SB: $3348
BB: $4183

Pre-flop: (6 players) TWP is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">TWP raises to $80</font>, Button calls, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $300</font>, BB folds, TWP...?

Do I fold/call/raise? If I don't fold, what's my plan for the hand postflop?
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Old 08-17-2007, 12:11 AM
jlocdog jlocdog is offline
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Default Re: Preflop against a squeezing fslexcduck

In regards to the first hand, my first reaction was to b/f or c/f the turn. C/c'ng seems awful spewy given that you are often behind already and have too many cards to come on river that beats you (either by outdrawn or bluffed). I c/r before I c/c and I don't think I c/r here too often.

I fold the 2nd hand. AQ seems to be one of the worst hands in this spot specifically vs. her. Unless ofcourse you are ready to gamble and possibly stack off extremely light. Then rock n roll with a 4bet preflop.

As for postflop if you call.....give me a flop.
As for postflop if you raise and she calls.....give me a flop but now the flop has to hit me much harder.
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Old 08-17-2007, 01:56 AM
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Default Re: Preflop against a squeezing fslexcduck

I know nothing about her game. I know you said you don't have a great read on her - but how bout general stats? I like a fold though - but this changes if she starts 3-betting you every other orbit. Just calling sucks either way usually.
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Old 08-17-2007, 02:05 AM
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just fold man. You have AQ at the most you gave up slight ev
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Old 08-17-2007, 02:06 AM
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btw, I thought hand 1 was the hand you had a question and I was like "CALL". And then you apparently won so take that fwiw
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Old 08-17-2007, 02:20 AM
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shove for value.
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Old 08-17-2007, 02:34 AM
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Tcoribn, HE ALREADY SHOVED FOR VALUE BUT HE LOST THATS WHY HES POSTING IT. THATS HWY I SAID FOLD 2 MAKE ME LOOK SMART
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Old 08-17-2007, 02:45 AM
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call, shove any flop
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Old 08-17-2007, 02:54 AM
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call, shove any flop

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like this the best if button is likely to fold
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Old 08-17-2007, 02:55 AM
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I thought we determined twp already lost this pot
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