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Old 11-02-2007, 09:01 PM
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so the river bet is for value? Why not just turn your hand over so the villan knows you are holding ATs-AK because thats exactly what your hand looks like on that river.

check behind, he is raising hands he beats and folding everything else. He might play a flush this way as well, once the A hits its EASY for him to get sexy on that river.

Pre-flop can be kinda hot, ignore those who say otherwise. Its very situational, if the situation was right then go for it.

flop - I won't even bother because its been said before.
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Old 11-02-2007, 09:26 PM
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On the river, after he checkraises, look at him, start laughing, and insta-3bet him. He'll put you quad 4s for sure, because he won't give you credit for being dumb enough to check any other hand behind twice.
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Old 11-02-2007, 10:45 PM
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God checking behind that river to his AQ/AJ would have been pretty sweet ownage.
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Old 11-03-2007, 03:57 AM
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Pre-preflop: Michael Jackson is a solid play. You could also raise Prince.


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Preflop: Thin 3-bet considering your read, but whatever.


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I have a minor peeve with this comment. The 3 bet is -ev here, not thin.

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I have to disagree with this. I hate the way he played this hand, but the three bet is correct against practically all opponents. It is positive EV if he is a slight underdog to the opponent's range. AT suited will not be more than a slight underdog to nearly any good player's open raise range from the hijack. If he is raising with only the top 15% we have over 49% equity. Our $60 investment in the $145 pot is only about 42%, that's positive EV.

If the guy is only raising the top 10% from the hijack (unlikely), then its close but still positive. We'd have about 43% equity.
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Old 11-03-2007, 05:56 AM
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If you are going to 3-bet a player as you describe, there is no reason to even look at the board until you get checkraised somewhere. The whole point of 3-betting on the light end of his range is to put him in the position you put yourself in.
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Old 11-03-2007, 11:52 AM
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If you are going to 3-bet a player as you describe, there is no reason to even look at the board until you get checkraised somewhere. The whole point of 3-betting on the light end of his range is to put him in the position you put yourself in.

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Well said Ryan. Thread over.

BTW, where have you been? Did your supersized brain just outgrow interest in poker?
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Old 11-03-2007, 06:25 PM
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I mostly play HG now...
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