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Old 07-26-2007, 10:35 PM
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Default Soda pop study

Anyone read this:

http://circ.ahajournals.org/cgi/cont...A.107.689935v1

Pretty amazing. I'm not at all surprised that pop is this bad for you I'm just kind of shocked that sugar and caffeine seemed to be irrelevant.

Anyone think it's the phosphoric acid?
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn5002
http://www.medpagetoday.com/Endocrin...ndrome/tb/6225

http://news.yahoo.com/s/hsn/20070723...ithcardiacrisk

Both cancer and cardio.


Ironically beer, coffee, and tea seem to be good for you in moderation. (different studies)
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Old 07-27-2007, 12:33 AM
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Anyone read this:

http://circ.ahajournals.org/cgi/cont...A.107.689935v1

Pretty amazing. I'm not at all surprised that pop is this bad for you I'm just kind of shocked that sugar and caffeine seemed to be irrelevant.

Anyone think it's the phosphoric acid?
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn5002
http://www.medpagetoday.com/Endocrin...ndrome/tb/6225

http://news.yahoo.com/s/hsn/20070723...ithcardiacrisk

Both cancer and cardio.


Ironically beer, coffee, and tea seem to be good for you in moderation.


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I知 going to have to read your links again. I missed the part where beer is good for you. The link from newscientist.com indicates that a plausible explanation is the fizziness or carbonation in soda that distends the stomach quite a bit more than regular water, causing a greater incidence of acid reflux, which alters ph balances, etc.

It seems that beer would have this same problem. Can you shed some more light on this? It痴 beer that I知 really interested in, particularly micro brews. Please tell me they are healthy for me.
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Old 07-27-2007, 03:42 AM
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Anyone read this:

http://circ.ahajournals.org/cgi/cont...A.107.689935v1

Pretty amazing. I'm not at all surprised that pop is this bad for you I'm just kind of shocked that sugar and caffeine seemed to be irrelevant.

Anyone think it's the phosphoric acid?
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn5002
http://www.medpagetoday.com/Endocrin...ndrome/tb/6225

http://news.yahoo.com/s/hsn/20070723...ithcardiacrisk

Both cancer and cardio.


Ironically beer, coffee, and tea seem to be good for you in moderation.


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I知 going to have to read your links again. I missed the part where beer is good for you. The link from newscientist.com indicates that a plausible explanation is the fizziness or carbonation in soda that distends the stomach quite a bit more than regular water, causing a greater incidence of acid reflux, which alters ph balances, etc.

It seems that beer would have this same problem. Can you shed some more light on this? It痴 beer that I知 really interested in, particularly micro brews. Please tell me they are healthy for me.

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proper beer isn't carbinated.

maybe soda isn't bad in itself but correlates with ill-health because its instead of beer.

chez
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Old 07-27-2007, 09:45 AM
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I知 going to have to read your links again. I missed the part where beer is good for you.

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only in moderation though.

I didn't provide any links on beer, tea or coffee. I will have to fix that in the future but I'm short on time right now.

Here's something to get you started:
http://nutrition.about.com/od/hydrat..._Nutrition.htm

that's incomplete but I will post more later. Try searching folix acid, polyphenols, and antioxidants.
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Old 07-28-2007, 12:39 PM
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proper beer isn't carbinated.

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Proper beer is naturally carbonated (The CO2 from fermentation is retained in the beer). Most mass produced beers are at least partly artificially carbonated (CO2 from other sources is added).
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Old 07-28-2007, 09:01 PM
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These effects are pretty small, though. From the abstract, it said that metabolic problems occurred in 18.7% of the <1 soda/day group and 22.something% of those in the >1 soda/day camp.
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Old 07-28-2007, 09:19 PM
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proper beer isn't carbinated.

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Proper beer is naturally carbonated (The CO2 from fermentation is retained in the beer). Most mass produced beers are at least partly artificially carbonated (CO2 from other sources is added).

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Its a very minor amount of carbonation. That pint of ESB <yummy> was as fizzy as tap-water.

chez
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Old 07-29-2007, 12:56 AM
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Its a very minor amount of carbonation. That pint of ESB <yummy> was as fizzy as tap-water.

chez

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r u high? those bubbles in the beer? the foam head on a tap beer? co2 baby
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Old 07-29-2007, 01:05 AM
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Its a very minor amount of carbonation. That pint of ESB <yummy> was as fizzy as tap-water.

chez

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r u high? those bubbles in the beer? the foam head on a tap beer? co2 baby

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you've seen a head on a pint of ESB?

Real ale's not even stored in pressurised casks which is why they have to be hand drawn.

Any way this is getting a bit silly and making me thirsty, any fizzyness in a real ale is a tiny fraction of a can of soda which is what would matter for the op.

chez
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Old 07-29-2007, 03:31 AM
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Its a very minor amount of carbonation. That pint of ESB <yummy> was as fizzy as tap-water.

chez

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r u high? those bubbles in the beer? the foam head on a tap beer? co2 baby

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you've seen a head on a pint of ESB?

Real ale's not even stored in pressurised casks which is why they have to be hand drawn.

Any way this is getting a bit silly and making me thirsty, any fizzyness in a real ale is a tiny fraction of a can of soda which is what would matter for the op.

chez

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I fell in love with ESB redhook when I lived in New Mexico for a summer. ESB does a damn fine job.
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