Do you fold this river?

[AutumnLeaf]

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Wow, this thread went to hell at the end:

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correct me if i'm wrong, but the exact odds for drawing to a gutshot with 4 outs on the flop is 10.75:1 so with 11:1 pot odds ur still making a profit over the long term.

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Exxcept you're not drawing to making a straight, you're drawing to winning a poker hand with a straight. Since you're straight isn't to the nuts, and you've only got 3 clean treys not four, you want better odds than that.


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i wasn't talking about the odds in that particular situation, i was referring to drawing to a gutshot in general, when there is no possible flush draw on the flop. Furthermore, i stated in my original post that due to the two spades on the board, i'd want higher odds then what was in the pot.