$6.50 Stars. Too much action for KK...what you do?

[chewbaka]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

Button (t1545)
SB (t1420)
BB (t700)
UTG (t640)
UTG+1 (t1570)
MP1 (t3115)
Hero (t1470)
MP3 (t1350)
CO (t1690)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Ks Kh
2 folds, MP1 calls t30, Hero raises to t120, MP3 calls t120, CO calls t120, 2 folds, BB calls t90, MP1 calls t90.

Flop: (t615) 4d 5s 8c (5 players)
BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets t240, MP3 raises to t1230, CO calls t1230, BB folds, MP1 folds, Hero ???

[johnnyknish]

what buy in is this that would tell us alot in this situation.

[dj32]

At a 6.50 I think you have to call. MP3 and CO could easily have A8, K8, 99, TT, JJ, QQ, or a draw, along with a set. i think you're ahead enough here to call.

[DeuceSeven]

Hero bets 400 on the flop, instacalls the ai.

[Scotty_12]

Yeah the flop bet is definitely too weak, 400 is the lowest I would be going. The AI is a snap call at this level I think

[zasterguava]

I call here but I don't like it. I would bet 3/4 of pot and call raise or cr all in

[BicVicTheQuick]

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Hero bets 400 on the flop, instacalls the ai.

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[TheFrenkel]

Raise more before the flop.
With KK you'd like to get it all in asap. Your commitment plan is: If an A doesn't come on the flop your Committed (with an Over-pair). But this plan is good for HU and not 5 players seeing the flop. I guess that when 5 solid players see the flop even a good overpair is not good enough (here you lose to trips, random 2 pair, straight)
The way it was played you are a big underdog to 67, 44, 55 and 88 all reasonable holding for a player getting good pot odds to call before flop.
I guess the buy-in and reads will affect my actions here. But against solid players I Guess I don't c-bet this flop, and just fold if big action comes. If no action comes I rethink after seeing the turn.
The small raise made this hand hard to play, the mistake IMO was pre-flop.

[chewbaka]

I think the pre flop bet was standard. It just so happen that players behind me folded. KK hand is good; you would like action but not this much especially preflop. I agree though that my flop bet was horrendous. I was thinking "im up against 4 players on the flop with KK", this is far from ideal. But then again, I should have bet 2/3 or 3/4 pot to know exactly where I stand.

[Dr_Wonderful]

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Raise more before the flop.
With KK you'd like to get it all in asap. Your commitment plan is: If an A doesn't come on the flop your Committed (with an Over-pair). But this plan is good for HU and not 5 players seeing the flop. I guess that when 5 solid players see the flop even a good overpair is not good enough (here you lose to trips, random 2 pair, straight)
The way it was played you are a big underdog to 67, 44, 55 and 88 all reasonable holding for a player getting good pot odds to call before flop.
I guess the buy-in and reads will affect my actions here. But against solid players I Guess I don't c-bet this flop, and just fold if big action comes. If no action comes I rethink after seeing the turn.
The small raise made this hand hard to play, the mistake IMO was pre-flop.

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I disagree with this. Why would he bet more preflop? He made a standard bet and got too much action, that happens. At a 6.5 I think you should be calling this all in, there are all kinds of hands that they could have. I realize that you're behind a good chunk of the time, but not often enough to warrant a fold. Also I agree with the other replies that you should have bet a bit more post flop. Whahoo, 400th post.