Crappy spot w/ AK

BGnight · #1 11-21-2007, 01:53 PM

Villian is 22/9/1.7 He's been quiet. I haven't been over aggro or anything w/ 3bets.
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UTG ($234.25)
Button ($268.80)
SB ($186.05)
Hero ($200.80)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, SB raises to $8, Hero raises to $25, SB raises to $50, Hero calls $25.

Flop: ($100) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $136.05 (All-In)

Pat Southern · #2 11-21-2007, 02:20 PM

Allin preflop, beat him into the pot on flop.

ASPoker8 · #3 11-21-2007, 02:22 PM

He has the A and the A 100% of the time here [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

As dumb as it sounds, i'd sort of want to fold preflop vs a 22/9/1.7 who hasnt been messing around or has any reason to think you are messing around.

BGnight · #4 11-21-2007, 02:29 PM

I just can't see him shoving w/ less than AK here.
As played I think I have to stack off in the Q is a 6 no?

Pf, I was close to folding, and pushing to me got called by QQ at worse, so I called to get more info since he opened the action. Is this ok? I was planning on stacking off if a K or A flopped, but reconsidered since he basically instapushed.

dragonystic · #5 11-21-2007, 02:29 PM

given your read...i think i just fold pf. his range is probably QQ+, maybe even KK+. i almost never see someone min 4bet without having it. let alone a weaktight looking player. fooold.

JackAll · #6 11-21-2007, 04:16 PM

Fold pf. do you really think a 9% pfr'er 4-bets light?
He often doesn't even 3-bet light.
He often doesn't even 2-bet light.

grando · #7 11-21-2007, 04:19 PM

shove or fold preflop

ajmargarine · #8 11-21-2007, 04:20 PM

Fold or push pre, yo. As played, what are you gonna do the 99% of the time no A or K falls and he leads into you?

Here you flop TPTK in a 4b pot and you wanna fold?!? Which leads me to think you shouldn't be calling his 4b, no?

Noam Chomsky · #9 11-21-2007, 04:31 PM

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Allin preflop, beat him into the pot on flop.

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Noam Chomsky · #10 11-21-2007, 04:43 PM

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I just can't see him shoving w/ less than AK here.
As played I think I have to stack off in the Q is a 6 no?

Pf, I was close to folding, and pushing to me got called by QQ at worse, so I called to get more info since he opened the action. Is this ok? I was planning on stacking off if a K or A flopped, but reconsidered since he basically instapushed.

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oh man getting to the flop this way and then folding is just awful.