Q8s in SB.

[agoldenbear]

Blackize - you really think hero can value bet the river? On this board, especially after hero more or less shouted that he turned a flush, I think that turns our hand into a bluff. Although villain is a donk, I can't see him flat calling in this spot too often, and if hero bets and villain shoves, we've forfeited all our showdown value because now we have a bluff catcher and marginal pot odds.

[blackize]

Most players don't bluffraise the river and they'll call too light so betting has a lot of value to it. He's definitely calling with any J, a smaller flush, and some Ax hands. He might raise with a J or a smaller flush as well as boats and the K high flush. Given the pot odds presented to the hero I think he has to call because villains at these stakes turn up with a naked J or lower flush way too often. If he shoves I think you have a pretty easy fold because your pot odds are terrible and you won't be ahead often enough except against the craziest of opponents.

[traz]

The river is an absolute must bet. KJ and QJ call all day, not to mention underflushes

[fees]

my heart actually felt a sharp pain when i saw hero folds.. call ffs