80NL - gettin MINdonked into all 3 streets??

[shoxbb6]

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It only matters if we're ahead of his CALLING range better than half the time for the bet to be profitable(leaving out factoring in the situations that he could reraise and we might feel committed).

Busted flush draws are not calling. Busted straights are not calling. One pp hands less than Qx are not calling. Even Qx hands are folding a good hunk of the time if the donk bet was meant to get to showdown cheap.


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Yea, if he has Qx he's obviously donking the flop and turn and calling big bets then donk/folding when the most obvious draw misses.

[kaz2107]

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It only matters if we're ahead of his CALLING range better than half the time for the bet to be profitable(leaving out factoring in the situations that he could reraise and we might feel committed).

Busted flush draws are not calling. Busted straights are not calling. One pp hands less than Qx are not calling. Even Qx hands are folding a good hunk of the time if the donk bet was meant to get to showdown cheap.


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Yea, if he has Qx he's obviously donking the flop and turn and calling big bets then donk/folding when the most obvious draw misses.

[/ QUOTE ]ok heres my task i want to ask u. pokerstove a CALLING RANGE for villian and post it on here. id love to see how u can get 50% equity agaqinst it. if u dont have pokerstove go dl it and lets see. im 100% u cant make a logical one.

[shoxbb6]

Board: Qs 5s 8c 4c 2h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 42.308% 42.31% 00.00% 132 0.00 { 88, 55, AQs, KQs, QJs, 76s, AQo, KQo, QJo, 76o }
Hand 1: 57.692% 57.69% 00.00% 180 0.00 { KK }

Personally, If i could weight it, 55/88 would be a very small % of possible hands.

[kaz2107]

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Board: Qs 5s 8c 4c 2h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 42.308% 42.31% 00.00% 132 0.00 { 88, 55, AQs, KQs, QJs, 76s, AQo, KQo, QJo, 76o }
Hand 1: 57.692% 57.69% 00.00% 180 0.00 { KK }

Personally, If i could weight it, 55/88 would be a very small % of possible hands.

[/ QUOTE ]he deff is capable of having n e 2 pair combo on the flop as well as turning a 2 pair combo. he calls preflop with Q8, Q5, and 85. he can also have AA or QQ.

[BevillTheDevil]

123 games 0.005 secs 24,600 games/sec

Board: Qs 5h 8s 2c 4c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 41.057% 40.65% 00.41% 50 0.50 { KcKd }
Hand 1: 58.943% 58.54% 00.41% 72 0.50 { AcAd, AhAs, KK-QQ, 88, 55, AQs, KQs, Q7s+, Q5s-Q4s, Q2s, 85s, 76s, AQo, KQo, QdJc, QhJs, QsJc, QsJd, QsJh, QTo-Q8o, Q5o-Q4o, Q2o, 85o, 76o }

This is the widest callin range that i could think of AND I MEAN WIDEST

IMO here is is callin range...


103 games 0.005 secs 20,600 games/sec

Board: Qs 5h 8s 2c 4c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 29.612% 29.13% 00.49% 30 0.50 { KcKd }
Hand 1: 70.388% 69.90% 00.49% 72 0.50 { AcAd, AhAs, KK-QQ, 88, 55, AQs, KQs, QJs, Q8s, Q5s-Q4s, Q2s, 85s, 76s, AQo, KQo, QJo, Q8o, Q5o-Q4o, Q2o, 85o, 76o }

And I think QJ is close...

[shoxbb6]

He'll call down 2 large bets with Q2o but he won't call one more big bet with those? That doesn't make sense to me.
Also, I think AA/KK/QQ/55/88 are a very, very small percentage of his range.

[BevillTheDevil]

ok take out Q2, we are still only like a 33% fav...even tho I completely disagree w/ you, I really do appreicate/respect your input/opinions, but neither 1 of us are going to change our minds so im done lol.

[kaz2107]

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He'll call down 2 large bets with Q2o but he won't call one more big bet with those? That doesn't make sense to me.
Also, I think AA/KK/QQ/55/88 are a very, very small percentage of his range.

[/ QUOTE ]he calls a flop bet with TP which is wut retards do. now he hits 2 pair on the turn. he is obv calling the turn now. that is not a stretch at all. and i dont see why he cant have AA or QQ here. passive moron. i have still yet to see a normal range that makes this a bet.

[Havok]

LMAO!!!!! Sorry. I think I just call the river cause you can't fold, but what the hell is he calling the second raise on the turn with. He's either and idiot, or your way behind. I've seen this line with good players. Just call the river.

[Havok]

My thoughts exactly, and it pisses them off like you don't believe to lose on a value bet after making a big hand. Reverse tilt for winning a smaller pot than they could have won. AAAAHHHH bitter revenge.