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Old 11-28-2007, 12:22 AM
Aero1441 Aero1441 is offline
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Default 100NL: Nut flush draw and 1 overcard on donkpush

CO is a complete donkey that CONSTANTLY open-minraises and openlimps on button. He then folds to any kind of bet/cbet from me on the flop. VERY passive and almost never bets himself. Although he's so horrible, I never see him openshoving anything (he hardly ever bets).

SB: $107.85
BB: $39.00
UTG: $94.60
UTG+1: $104.40
CO: $95.58
Hero (BTN): $154.25

Pre-Flop: A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, CO calls, Hero raises to $4.50, SB folds, BB calls, CO calls

Flop: ($14.00) 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
UTG checks, CO checks, Hero bets $9.00, BB folds, CO goes allin for $91.08, Hero ?

Is this a call? I'm 50/50 against a K here right? But behind against 2 pair/set. Do you just lay it down here? What if CO had a smaller stack?
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Old 11-28-2007, 12:38 AM
Paul Thomson Paul Thomson is offline
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Default Re: 100NL: Nut flush draw and 1 overcard on donkpush

all-in
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Old 11-28-2007, 01:12 AM
Maneh Maneh is offline
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Default Re: 100NL: Nut flush draw and 1 overcard on donkpush

with your reads i just see CO doing this w 66,22 :|
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Old 11-28-2007, 01:16 AM
spivey spivey is offline
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Default Re: 100NL: Nut flush draw and 1 overcard on donkpush

Fold.
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Old 11-28-2007, 01:17 AM
Adebisi Adebisi is offline
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Default Re: 100NL: Nut flush draw and 1 overcard on donkpush

I think he could easily have a worse spade draw given his level of retardedness. Definately gamble with him here. Worst case scenario, you get to stack him twice later.
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Old 11-28-2007, 01:26 AM
nazahl nazahl is offline
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Default Re: 100NL: Nut flush draw and 1 overcard on donkpush

this is actually pretty close, depends how likely he is to shove a flush draw

by my math you're gettin $114.08 : $82.08 so you need 42% equity to call.
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16,830 games 0.005 secs 3,366,000 games/sec

Board: Ks 6s 2h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 46.887% 46.89% 00.00% 7891 0.00 { AsQs }
Hand 1: 53.113% 53.11% 00.00% 8939 0.00 { 66, 22, Kc6c, Kd6d, Kh6h, QsJs, JsTs, Ts9s, 9s8s, 8s7s, 6c2c, 6d2d, 6h2h, 5s4s, 4s3s }


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a couple random flush draws

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11,880 games 0.005 secs 2,376,000 games/sec

Board: Ks 6s 2h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 34.091% 34.09% 00.00% 4050 0.00 { AsQs }
Hand 1: 65.909% 65.91% 00.00% 7830 0.00 { 66, 22, Kc6c, Kd6d, Kh6h, QsJs, JsTs, 6c2c, 6d2d, 6h2h }


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if you throw in some Kx some % of the time, then I'm pretty sure its a snap call but if your read is sayin he's passive it's pretty unlikely.
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Old 11-28-2007, 01:32 AM
Adebisi Adebisi is offline
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Default Re: 100NL: Nut flush draw and 1 overcard on donkpush

You can take the worst of it equity-wise here to an extent, since this guy is a donk and he's on your immediate right. When he has 100bbs, if your expected winrate is Xbb/100, when he has 200bbs, your expected winrate is going to be >Xbb/100.
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