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Old 05-22-2007, 03:50 AM
TheFoxNL TheFoxNL is offline
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Default Keyhand in 2,20 6max

(converter not working right so flop bets are manually put in)

as the title says this is a 2,20 6max tourney

ive been i chiplead from 300 players remaining

and since 100 remaining im having big swings up and down
1st - 30th- 60th- 4th- 20th

anyway this hand is with about 30 left
im around 5th in chips

i made this move because villian has been kinda aggressive since he moved here 5 orbits ago and i wanted to represent trips
what went wrong ?
did he got a read on me or did i just betted wrong ?


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t1600 (5 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Button (t32150)
SB (t90256)
Hero (t48957)
UTG (t36437)
MP (t54845)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to t3200</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls t1600.

Flop: (t5100) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero Checks, MP bets 6400, Hero raises 14400 to 20800,
MP raises 30770 to 51570 and is all-in, Hero ??
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Old 05-22-2007, 03:55 AM
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Default Re: Keyhand in 2,20 6max

He might not be able to lay down top pair, or he could have a set of his own. Or he could have AA with his stupid minraise preflop and is taking you off of a King.

His overbet on the flop is retarded too. It seems like you got yourself in a bad situation.
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Old 05-22-2007, 04:34 AM
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Default Re: Keyhand in 2,20 6max

so next time just fold against his overbet ?
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Old 05-22-2007, 04:48 AM
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Default Re: Keyhand in 2,20 6max

TheFox,

does villain usually minraise? Does he usually pot bet?

You're basically going all-in by check-raising here, since you're getting ridic odds to call (3:1). At least, villain should see that...but of course, this is a $2 MTT so he probably doesn't [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Either fold on the flop or push it in, but I don't really like that either.
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Old 05-22-2007, 06:36 AM
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Default Re: Keyhand in 2,20 6max

havnt seen him mini raise alott but then again he has been mixing his raises and flat calls PF and i have seen him bet big on the flop be4 yes
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Old 05-22-2007, 07:02 AM
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Default Re: Keyhand in 2,20 6max

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havnt seen him mini raise alott but then again he has been mixing his raises and flat calls PF and i have seen him bet big on the flop be4 yes

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What did he do on turns when he overbet flop?

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so next time just fold against his overbet ?

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I'm all for aggression with marginal holdings and decent equity.

This is a pretty bad spot though. Aggrodonks don't fold after they overbet pots generally. You do want more than runner runner draws and 5 outers against what is probably middle pair or Kx most of the time in a 2.2.

What's with your stack being all over the place though?

What's your own image here over the past 5 orbits? If what you say about your stack size means you've been very active, you're not going to get the FE you think you need. This is 6max, not FR, and you're going to see a much wider calling range from Villains shorthanded.

He's aggressive. Is he bad, spewy, what have you seen him show down that makes you think he will fold here, or that you're even ahead?

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i wanted to represent trips

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Look at the board texture. Why would you raise a set to a flop overbet on such a dry flop, especially shorthanded?
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Old 05-22-2007, 08:19 AM
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Default Re: Keyhand in 2,20 6max

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havnt seen him mini raise alott but then again he has been mixing his raises and flat calls PF and i have seen him bet big on the flop be4 yes

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What did he do on turns when he overbet flop?

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so next time just fold against his overbet ?

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I'm all for aggression with marginal holdings and decent equity.

This is a pretty bad spot though. Aggrodonks don't fold after they overbet pots generally. You do want more than runner runner draws and 5 outers against what is probably middle pair or Kx most of the time in a 2.2.

What's with your stack being all over the place though?

What's your own image here over the past 5 orbits? If what you say about your stack size means you've been very active, you're not going to get the FE you think you need. This is 6max, not FR, and you're going to see a much wider calling range from Villains shorthanded.

He's aggressive. Is he bad, spewy, what have you seen him show down that makes you think he will fold here, or that you're even ahead?

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i wanted to represent trips

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Look at the board texture. Why would you raise a set to a flop overbet on such a dry flop, especially shorthanded?

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well i havent seen him get to the turn be4 when he overbetted the flop so no idea there


and yes ive been pretty active and i think most important thing he could of seen was calling down a river bet with top pair 6 kicker on a 878T5 board
so youre prob right that i need more FE then i thought

as for the trips youre absolutely right just noticed it when you said it
hmm thanks dude
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Old 05-22-2007, 08:37 AM
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Default Re: Keyhand in 2,20 6max

No worries. I tend to find my thought processes flow better when I look at a hand and see how many questions I can find out of it.

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Either fold on the flop or push it in, but I don't really like that either.

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I'm bad enough to float flops some here looking for the third of the deck that lets me go broke on turns. Probably horrible with stack sizes tho.
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