The TSA and a Dead White Lady

[PLOlover]

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a) if alex jones is wrong so often, can point some of his errors out? maybe I am missing them?


9/11, New World Order conspiracies. The guy has as much credibility as Coast to Coast AM.

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b) how have I lost my credibility on police brutality?

Intentionally leaving out details and misleading people about situations.

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c) btw, when I said the mother was on alex jones, I didn't mean he talked about her, I meant he interviewed her, and you could hear her side of the story direct.

I'm sure there was lots of tough questions asked to her too.

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a) those are opinions, not facts. fwiw the facts he uses to support his theories all check out, which is not to say his theories are correct.
b) what details did I leave out?
c) she told her story, what else would you have?

[TomCollins]

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a) if alex jones is wrong so often, can point some of his errors out? maybe I am missing them?


9/11, New World Order conspiracies. The guy has as much credibility as Coast to Coast AM.

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b) how have I lost my credibility on police brutality?

Intentionally leaving out details and misleading people about situations.

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c) btw, when I said the mother was on alex jones, I didn't mean he talked about her, I meant he interviewed her, and you could hear her side of the story direct.

I'm sure there was lots of tough questions asked to her too.

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a) those are opinions, not facts. fwiw the facts he uses to support his theories all check out, which is not to say his theories are correct.
b) what details did I leave out?
c) she told her story, what else would you have?

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Alex Jones is like Nielsio- he will cherry pick facts to arrive at his preconceived conclusion. If you know he will only show "facts" that he wants you to see, it is very easy to ignore him. Same reason I ignore Michael Moore.

[PLOlover]

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Alex Jones is like Nielsio- he will cherry pick facts to arrive at his preconceived conclusion. If you know he will only show "facts" that he wants you to see, it is very easy to ignore him. Same reason I ignore Michael Moore.

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true he does have an agenda.

but what you mean I leave out details or whatever? I don't get it. what else you know about the cake broken arm thingee?

[TomCollins]

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Alex Jones is like Nielsio- he will cherry pick facts to arrive at his preconceived conclusion. If you know he will only show "facts" that he wants you to see, it is very easy to ignore him. Same reason I ignore Michael Moore.

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true he does have an agenda.

but what you mean I leave out details or whatever? I don't get it. what else you know about the cake broken arm thingee?

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I know she did not get her arm broken for dropping cake. Common sense and the other evidence presented shows otherwise. You should learn something about crying wolf. I'm sure there is brutality. When you cry wolf, you lose credibility for when there is ar eal problem.

[PLOlover]

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know she did not get her arm broken for dropping cake. Common sense and the other evidence presented shows otherwise.

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what do you mean? from what I've read/heard, all the witnesses back up her story. what other evidence?

I mean I hear you, common sense says that stuff wouldn't happen, *but* when you add in the guy with cell phone was arrested (and was still in jail a few days later according to the broken girls mother), I mean, come on, even common sense has to yield to thinking someting is going on.

and by the way, it's not that some crazy school guard who was probably in throes of a roid rage would hurt some girl. that's not the big deal. I mean it's a big country. you expect stuff like that to happen. the big deal is that it seems like everybody is supporting him, not only the school administration, but the police, and soon we'll see if the prosecutors are gonna go along. also the mother, who worked for a nearby (different) school system, was *fired* from her job. I mean, what a nightmare.

but seriously I am interested in further developements/evidence in this case.

[TomCollins]

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know she did not get her arm broken for dropping cake. Common sense and the other evidence presented shows otherwise.

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what do you mean? from what I've read/heard, all the witnesses back up her story. what other evidence?

I mean I hear you, common sense says that stuff wouldn't happen, *but* when you add in the guy with cell phone was arrested (and was still in jail a few days later according to the broken girls mother), I mean, come on, even common sense has to yield to thinking someting is going on.

and by the way, it's not that some crazy school guard who was probably in throes of a roid rage would hurt some girl. that's not the big deal. I mean it's a big country. you expect stuff like that to happen. the big deal is that it seems like everybody is supporting him, not only the school administration, but the police, and soon we'll see if the prosecutors are gonna go along. also the mother, who worked for a nearby (different) school system, was *fired* from her job. I mean, what a nightmare.

but seriously I am interested in further developements/evidence in this case.

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In my history, there is usually a LOT more to the story. Remember the TSA issue where the woman got in big trouble for "spilling water" that Nielsio brought up? Turns out once the tape was released, it was entirely obvious that she was in the wrong.

You make another post where the guy is tased after fighting with cops, and it was obvious he was in the wrong.

What am I supposed to believe here? Was the guard probably a bit overbearing and rough? Probably. Was she innocent of everything and only dropped a piece of cake and got beat for it? I seriously doubt it.

I have no evidence other than life experience and common sense. Almost every one of these whiners brought the situation almost completely upon themselves, was way in the wrong, and then someone with authority does something a little bit wrong in response. But perhaps this is the one case where she was completely innocent, just dropped a piece of cake, and he beat her ass because he didn't want to have someone else vacuum the floor. Its all bayes theorem and common sense.

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You make another post where the guy is tased after fighting with cops, and it was obvious he was in the wrong.

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I don't know what to tell you , the school released an official statement saying that he was escorted out because he took too long to ask a question. So all that stuff about jumping in line and stuff was simply not true.

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?se...amp;id=5677461

here's the evidence I am aware of, you haven't added anything more. also in the story the school principal or something releases a statement but doesn't deny anything the girl said.

also maybe the main point is that in the university tasering incident, none of the videotapers were tackled and arrested. also in the taser, the bullies were police officers. in the high school, they were security guards. How would you like to be tackled and arrested in best buy because you took video on your cellphone of a guy being arrested by a security guard because when he put an item back on the shelf he didn't straighten and pretty up the display, he put it back kinda sloppily?

[Copernicus]

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Alex Jones- theres a reliable source. Maybe you should also investigate BatBoy. I saw it in the National Enquirer.

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why do you think a.j. is not a reliable source? every single fact I have checked has been true. as to his hyperbolic opinions, well, they were out there in 1999, but now that martial law is pretty much here (posse commitatus overturned by john warner defense bill), even his opinions seem to be pretty much validated.

I mean think about it, we know the abc nightly news and mainstream media stuff is basically just propaganda, yet you dismiss alex jones because he is not mainstream media? doublethink?

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Hmmmm let me think. Paranormal studies and Uri Geller, UFOs, 9/11 conspiracy garbage. Might be a few indications that he panders to a lunatic fringe audience, eh?

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Hmmmm let me think. Paranormal studies and Uri Geller, UFOs, 9/11 conspiracy garbage. Might be a few indications that he panders to a lunatic fringe audience, eh?

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fwiw I've never heard him talk about "Paranormal studies and Uri Geller, UFOs" except very briefly if someone calls up about stupid stuff he cuts them off and says that is all a distraction for stupid people. about 911 let me just ask one question: after all this time the government can't figure out exactly who it was who shorted the airline stocks? I mean, it was a conspiracy of somebody, and there are unanswered questions. get real.

[daryn]

mmm thank you tom collins