100NL - JJ OOP vs a 3 bet

[Logun]

This situation is one of my nightmares and I had two of them in the span of 5 mins. Discussion ensued about villain's range and the EV of floating this flop.

Villain is 18/13 over 72 hands (readless) AF = 3

Do I call preflop only to set mine, or am I stacking with an overpair?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $19.50
BB: $114.20
Hero (UTG): $104.75
BTN: $101.25

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $3.50</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $10.00</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $6.50

Flop: ($21.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $15.00</font>, Hero ????

[Bukem_]

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floating this flop.



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This isn't a float, you would call because you expect to be good a decent amount of the time, and you don't expect villain to bluff you off the best hand very often once you call this flop.

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Do I call preflop only to set mine, or am I stacking with an overpair?



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calling to play poker.

[Logun]

so c/f turn?

[Bukem_]

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so c/f turn?

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As a default without a better read, sure.

[Chaos_ult]

Folding the flop absent of any sort of read is perfectly acceptable.

[ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S]

i c/f the flop

i probably 4bet preflop a lot of the time

[Envyme_Mvp]

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i c/f the flop

i probably 4bet preflop a lot of the time

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Standard fold

[SkyyCaptain]

Think this is an easy fold. Unfortunately the hands he reraise are pairs that beat you, and AK, for the most part I think you're beat.

Maybe a couple of feistier weak hands make this move but his numbers don't suggest it.

[Saviour_Flare]

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i c/f the flop

i probably 4bet preflop a lot of the time

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me to. I 4bet proflop here quite often.