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#491
09-17-2007, 06:24 PM
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Re: Absolute Cliffsnotes (Mod edit: AP thread, part 2)
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28: he has the pot odds to make this call if he puts monsterhood exactly on A3 Seat 1 - MONSTERHOOD ($51680 in chips) Seat 3 - POTRIPPER ($558072 in chips) Seat 4 - PLETT25 ($93188 in chips) Seat 8 - CRAZYMARCO ($277060 in chips) MONSTERHOOD - Ante $360 POTRIPPER - Ante $360 PLETT25 - Ante $360 CRAZYMARCO - Ante $360 MONSTERHOOD - Posts small blind $1800 POTRIPPER - Posts big blind $3600 Dealt to MONSTERHOOD [As 3d] *** POCKET CARDS *** PLETT25 - Folds CRAZYMARCO - Raises $8175 to $8175 MONSTERHOOD - All-In(Raise) $49520 to $51320 POTRIPPER - Calls $47720 CRAZYMARCO - Folds *** TURN *** [Jh Qc 5d] [Kd] *** FLOP *** [Jh Qc 5d] *** RIVER *** [Jh Qc 5d Kd] [Ad] *** SHOW DOWN *** MONSTERHOOD - Shows [As 3d] (One pair, aces) POTRIPPER - Shows [Qh 10s] (Straight, ten to ace) [/ QUOTE ] I am getting pretty confused here. This guy is a moron in the way he cheats and apparently doesn't know how to hide his cheating and yet he is making perfect odds calculations to make calls with Q-10. What if the A-3 held up? if he is smart enough to calculate the proper call then he would know that there are far better situations to get it all in when you see peoples cards. Count me as one of the guys that just isnt convinced. I am not saying this guy isnt cheating, but if i was on a jury there is no way i convict this guy on the totality of the hands presented to this point. Obviously, Absolute will deny the allegations so that post won't sway my opinion one way or the other. |
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#492
09-17-2007, 06:25 PM
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Re: Absolute Cliffsnotes (Mod edit: AP thread, part 2)
primetime: he has 10x monster's chips in that hand. that matters a lot if you're a donkey.
also, while those hands alone wouldn't be enough to convict... Stage #896976330 Tourney ID 1883389 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit $4500 - 2007-09-13 01:43:49 (ET) Table: 14 (Real Money) Seat #3 is the dealer Seat 3 - POTRIPPER ($765740 in chips) Seat 8 - CRAZYMARCO ($214260 in chips) POTRIPPER - Ante $450 CRAZYMARCO - Ante $450 POTRIPPER - Posts small blind $2250 CRAZYMARCO - Posts big blind $4500 *** POCKET CARDS *** POTRIPPER - Calls $2250 CRAZYMARCO - Checks *** FLOP *** [4h Kd Kh] CRAZYMARCO - Checks POTRIPPER - Bets $9000 CRAZYMARCO - Calls $9000 *** TURN *** [4h Kd Kh] [7s] CRAZYMARCO - Checks POTRIPPER - Bets $13500 CRAZYMARCO - All-In(Raise) $200310 to $200310 POTRIPPER - Calls $186810 *** RIVER *** [4h Kd Kh 7s] [5s] *** SHOW DOWN *** POTRIPPER - Shows [10c 9c] (One pair, kings) CRAZYMARCO - Shows [9h 2h] (One pair, kings) POTRIPPER Collects $428520 from main pot |
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#493
09-17-2007, 06:25 PM
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Re: Absolute Cliffsnotes (Mod edit: AP thread, part 2)
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I think it is pretty incriminating that absolute is being questioned by players who have lost thousands of dollars and shown up with substantial evidence that several accounts have been able to see holecards (worst cheating accusation ever in online poker) and they have yet to make anything but RETARDED responses. Unless this is some super elaborate 2+2 high stakes hoax (likelihood of this converging towards zero) I would bet my life that these players were cheating. You know absolute poker is sitting here reading this thread also just clueless as to how to proceed because they are wrong and the integrity of their site permanently compromised. The have no rebuttal to the cheating accusations and most likely if they were to come out with the truth it would be more damning that this stuff already is. [/ QUOTE ] if this is a level it's easily the greatest in history. |
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#494
09-17-2007, 06:28 PM
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Re: Absolute Cliffsnotes (Mod edit: AP thread, part 2)
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[ QUOTE ] Dragon, This guy was playing vs some of the best NL players on the net. It is not as easy as your so called "pwnage" at 10cent NL. \ Do you have any stats from your crazy sessions where you "pwned them for 200bb's/100 over 100's of hands"? We will be looking forward to your screenshots of this. [/ QUOTE ] i dunno how to put the pic in here correctly, but here is a link PT 200bb/100 im not saying this proves anything, but there were some weird hands in there that i bet people thought were signs that i knew what the community cards would be or some other bs. why is everyone on here so mean? [/ QUOTE ] I'm grunching. [ QUOTE ] why is everyone on here so mean? [/ QUOTE ] Because you're a [censored] idiot. You either can't understand what's being said in the two threads or you haven't yet read the two threads. You clearly do not understand the significance of the infinite (or ludicrously high) river aggression factor, which is the main thing that makes your graphs and the AP graphs wildly different even thought the VPIP and PFR might be similar. If you're too dumb too understand or don't have the desire to understand please just shut the [censored] up. |
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#496
09-17-2007, 06:30 PM
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Re: Absolute Cliffsnotes (Mod edit: AP thread, part 2)
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21: first potripper open limp of the session, which comes on the button POTRIPPER - Calls $3600 PLETT25 - Calls $1800 BLANCONEGRO - Raises $12500 to $16100 POTRIPPER - Calls $12500 PLETT25 - Folds *** FLOP *** [10h 7s 7d] BLANCONEGRO - Checks POTRIPPER - Bets $3600 BLANCONEGRO - Raises $16000 to $16000 POTRIPPER - Calls $12400 *** TURN *** [10h 7s 7d] [Jh] BLANCONEGRO - Checks POTRIPPER - Bets $43200 BLANCONEGRO - Raises $111600 to $111600 POTRIPPER - Raises $180000 to $223200 BLANCONEGRO - All-In $822.04 POTRIPPER - returned ($110777.96) : not called *** RIVER *** [10h 7s 7d Jh] [2s] *** SHOW DOWN *** POTRIPPER - Shows [7c 9h] (Three of a kind, sevens) BLANCONEGRO - Shows [Jc Kd] (Two Pair, jacks and sevens) [/ QUOTE ] this hand, wouldn't it make sense to check the flop hoping blan catches a K or J? Or did pot truly soul read blan that he would c/r KJ if potripper bet out? |
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#497
09-17-2007, 06:30 PM
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Re: Absolute Cliffsnotes (Mod edit: AP thread, part 2)
thx for sorting all of this out!! and note how i fold to him every time I dont have anything, i considered bluffing against this guy as madness
 This was exactly my point and a little more. The first three hands he folds, might be because someone else in late position had a better hand, that he might want to reraise with, but potripper wasnt sure how this the LP person was. obviously, he got disappointed. |
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#498
09-17-2007, 06:32 PM
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Re: Absolute Cliffsnotes (Mod edit: AP thread, part 2)
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[ QUOTE ] 21: first potripper open limp of the session, which comes on the button POTRIPPER - Calls $3600 PLETT25 - Calls $1800 BLANCONEGRO - Raises $12500 to $16100 POTRIPPER - Calls $12500 PLETT25 - Folds *** FLOP *** [10h 7s 7d] BLANCONEGRO - Checks POTRIPPER - Bets $3600 BLANCONEGRO - Raises $16000 to $16000 POTRIPPER - Calls $12400 *** TURN *** [10h 7s 7d] [Jh] BLANCONEGRO - Checks POTRIPPER - Bets $43200 BLANCONEGRO - Raises $111600 to $111600 POTRIPPER - Raises $180000 to $223200 BLANCONEGRO - All-In $822.04 POTRIPPER - returned ($110777.96) : not called *** RIVER *** [10h 7s 7d Jh] [2s] *** SHOW DOWN *** POTRIPPER - Shows [7c 9h] (Three of a kind, sevens) BLANCONEGRO - Shows [Jc Kd] (Two Pair, jacks and sevens) [/ QUOTE ] this hand, wouldn't it make sense to check the flop hoping blan catches a K or J? Or did pot truly soul read blan that he would c/r KJ if potripper bet out? [/ QUOTE ] note that that bet is a minbet as I said in the other thread 800 posts ago...this is exactly how a complete retard seeing the other guy's hole cards would play |
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#499
09-17-2007, 06:35 PM
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Re: Absolute Cliffsnotes (Mod edit: AP thread, part 2)
the only somewhat damning evidence from the tourney hands is that the only hands he folded pf are when others had big pairs.
still, not sure why he would coldcall, then fold. i suppose he wasnt expecting someone behind to squeeze with a weak hand, that happened to be stronger than his cheese. |
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