QQ 2nd day of 1500 nl...

[Cornell Fiji]

I don't know how he plays but spades/TJs/TT?/JJ?/A9s?/AKo have to be a big enough part of his range to stack off only 40bbs deep with an aggro image.

I'm sorry but flop raise on draw heavy board against a crazy opponent who can fourbet 9To pf and cbets often =/= set

[BUTNAHHHH]

I would never fold there giving ur history with him. I cant think of him making such a big raise iwth a set of 9, 8, or 4 on the flop. Id beat him in the pot after he reraised it to 71k, i could even see him folding after ur push

[afadeyi]

fold

[The B]

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It's the second day of event 3 and we have like 90 or so players left, the average stack is around 100k...

The villain in this hand is Eric Baldwin, aka basebaldy... we played a hand a couple hours earlier where I 4 bet shoved with T9o and showed him (dumb i know)... We are by far the most aggressive and best players at the table... beginning the hand I have ~200k and he has ~175k... Blinds are 2k-4k w/ 500 ante

I open in mp to 14k w/ Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and he smooth calls on the button... Flop is 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]... I lead 21k and he raises to 71k... I????

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is 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img],J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], in his range??

would he flat call with 4/4, 8/8, or 9/9 here?

when he puts the 71k in, he's playing for his whole stack...you're beat, muck

[uclabruinz]

This is a smart, aggressive, thinking villain. He knows that you know, etc. I do not think this is an easy shove by any stretch. I guess y'all who say "easy shove" think air is in his range a lot, because I don't see many hands we're beating here.

[Eagles]

I shove and I'm pretty happy with it.

His pf range is very wide

Your pf range is very wide and you almost never have a hand as strong as QQ on the flop.

He can raise TJ or any other flushdraws or big 9s/TT/JJ for value.

He can bluff raise this flop and fold to a shove.

40bbs deep given your history I doubt he'd cold call AA/KK here pf.

So the only hands beating you are sets and 89 even though he has a very wide range and can raise this flop with air/ a bunch of draws.

[Unphased]

Can't fold this... he could have any sort of draw; I also think based on your previous hand, he might be smooth calling with a set; if he thinks you are that aggressive, why is he trying to make you fold when he has a monster? I insta shove and try to beat his AsJs for a huge stack

[roo400]

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This is a smart, aggressive, thinking villain. He knows that you know, etc. I do not think this is an easy shove by any stretch. I guess y'all who say "easy shove" think air is in his range a lot, because I don't see many hands we're beating here.

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he certainly can have draws/air. Put yourself in his shoes, against a known agressive player would you not try to put a move on the flop if you called preflop on a flop you partially hit??

The way I see it, these 2 were playing really LAG and opening many many pots so our position (UTG) doesn't mean that much and villain could also be 'trapping' with TT/JJ. I think villain's range here is pretty wide (9x/OESD/FD/TT-JJ/sets/2pr). With that range, it becomes an easy shove.

I guess a physic tell would be necessary for me to fold here since I'm never folding this online against a known LAG.

[JP OSU]

Seriously... to those that say easy shove, what are you doing w/ A9 here???

[THEOSU]

JP,

top pair top kicker is pretty much the nuts, too.