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Old 09-24-2007, 03:37 PM
Snafu'd Snafu'd is offline
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Default 30NL: QQ, Deep & OOP Play Along

I think this hand is fairly interesting but maybe not. If anything, I think my play in the hand is debatable. Villain in hand was running 46/14/1.5 with 25.5% WTSD and 50% W$SD but only over 100 hands, so take it fwiw. Other than that, I hadn't noticed much to have a solid read. We'll try this as a play along, so other than just saying "raise," maybe discuss how much we should raise and why etc.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.15/$0.30 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $6.90
BB: $20.90
Hero (UTG): $66.50
MP: $45.55
CO: $55.45
BTN: $15.95

Preflop: Hero is dealt (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $1.05</font>, MP folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $3.00</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $2.85, BB folds,
<font color="blue">Hero? </font>
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Old 09-24-2007, 03:39 PM
z28dreams z28dreams is offline
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Default Re: 30NL: QQ, Deep & OOP Play Along

Call. You're an UTG raiser, villain re-raised and only has a 14% PFR number.

Let's see a flop and play poker.
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Old 09-24-2007, 03:58 PM
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Default Re: 30NL: QQ, Deep & OOP Play Along

I would reraise to $9. The SB is short stacked and will almost always call but he is so short that he's not that much of a worry. If the CO reraises me all-in then I fold. The CO could have AK, but that is probably the worst hand he has and if it's not AK, then it is usually AA or KK. I hate to call all-in raises with QQ, especially against two players.
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Old 09-24-2007, 04:05 PM
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Default Re: 30NL: QQ, Deep & OOP Play Along

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I would reraise to $9. The SB is short stacked and will almost always call but he is so short that he's not that much of a worry. If the CO reraises me all-in then I fold. The CO could have AK, but that is probably the worst hand he has and if it's not AK, then it is usually AA or KK. I hate to call all-in raises with QQ, especially against two players.

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if you dont want to get re raised and have to call his all in dont re raise, I call here. See a flop and go from there
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Old 09-24-2007, 04:06 PM
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Default Re: 30NL: QQ, Deep & OOP Play Along

Do you have a 3 bet % on him? I usually reraise to about $10 - $12, get sb AI and put some pressure on CO who I'm assuming is a donk.
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Old 09-24-2007, 04:37 PM
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if you dont want to get re raised and have to call his all in dont re raise, I call here. See a flop and go from there

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I really disagree with this...don't let a villian to see the flop this cheap w 200BB stacks behind just cuz you don't want to face a push.
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Old 09-24-2007, 05:13 PM
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if you dont want to get re raised and have to call his all in dont re raise, I call here. See a flop and go from there

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I really disagree with this...don't let a villian to see the flop this cheap w 200BB stacks behind just cuz you don't want to face a push.

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Agreed.. why are we so scared to reraise here? It's not like the villain is running 8/5. His preflop stats indicate he's not very positionally aware so his 3betting our UTG raise doesn't mean as much. For everyone who said call, do you really think we're behind here that often? If you do, then how do you play it on a 25T rainbow flop? His AA or KK would still be ahead. If we are check/folding if an A or K hits, why not reraise preflop to get more money in while we are ahead?
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Old 09-24-2007, 05:18 PM
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Default Re: 30NL: QQ, Deep & OOP Play Along

Yep, I raise and fold to a push/5b cuz it's almost always AA/KK/AK. Calling is bad for aforementioned reasons.
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Old 09-24-2007, 05:24 PM
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i think we call here and see it along. lets play the flop then see where were at
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Old 09-24-2007, 06:32 PM
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Default Re: 30NL: QQ, Deep & OOP Play Along

Good to see there is debate on this street. Hopefully the rest of the hand will be interesting as well.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.15/$0.30 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $6.90
BB: $20.90
Hero (UTG): $66.50
MP: $45.55
CO: $55.45
BTN: $15.95

Preflop: Hero is dealt (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $1.05</font>, MP folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $3.00</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $2.85, BB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $12.00</font>, CO calls $9.00, SB calls all-in for $3.90

Flop: ($31.20) (3 Players - 1 All-In)
<font color="blue"> Hero? </font>

If bet, how much and what is your plan for a flat call or a raise?
If check, what is your plan and why?
Also, keep in mind the SB is all-in at this point so there is a side pot of about $10 and the main pot is $20ish.

Edit: I did not have 3 bet % on villain.
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