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Old 08-06-2007, 07:09 PM
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Default Re: wtf how could you possibly have me beat

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wow are you guys serious?

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

1,188 games 0.005 secs 237,600 games/sec

Board: Jh 8h 7h 4d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 34.512% 34.51% 00.00% 410 0.00 { KdKh }
Hand 1: 65.488% 65.49% 00.00% 778 0.00 { JJ, 88-77, AhTh, Ah9h, Ah5h, KhQh, QhTh, T9s, 6h5h, AhQc, AhQd, AhQs, AhJc, AhJd, AhJs, AhTc, AhTd, AhTs }


This is a pretty generous range too.

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WTF??? RIGGED DECK!!!

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Pokerstove doesn't include cards already in play, so it didn't affect the equity at all.

I think this is a fold for sure, and this doesn't look much like the A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] to me, looks like a set, two pair, a straight, a flush, etc. If he is so passive that he is going to just call with the A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] here to a bet and a raise I really doubt he would overbet shove the turn.
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Old 08-06-2007, 07:14 PM
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Default Re: wtf how could you possibly have me beat

yah he's def way more likely to 3bet the flop with the Ah if he chooses to continue, but I just included it to lighten his range (further prove my point)/satisfy those saying that he's bluffing with it.

If he's calling here with a naked jack then thats another discussion in itself, but it seems way out of line to expect it.
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Old 08-06-2007, 07:18 PM
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Default Re: wtf how could you possibly have me beat

Why would u not want to reraise flop if he has the Ace, why not build pot. Im confused.
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Old 08-06-2007, 07:20 PM
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Default Re: wtf how could you possibly have me beat

I would bet/call the turn, but check/call all in is close enough for me too.
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Old 08-06-2007, 07:22 PM
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I would bet/call the turn, but check/call all in is close enough for me too.

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ARE YOU [censored] SERIOUS? WHAT MORE DO YOU NEED TO SEE.

THIS THREAD IS TILTING ME.
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Old 08-06-2007, 07:31 PM
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Default Re: wtf how could you possibly have me beat

calling this is putting to much hope in the fact that villain has A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. 1.5x pot size bet is too much to be calling here, especially w/a vague read on villain.
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Old 08-06-2007, 07:41 PM
HumbertHumbert HumbertHumbert is offline
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turn check is fine. you should fold after the massive overbet from the flop coldcaller.
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Old 08-06-2007, 07:44 PM
BalugaWhale BalugaWhale is offline
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Default Re: wtf how could you possibly have me beat

i mean once you check a fold is okay

but i probly wouldnt check
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Old 08-06-2007, 08:05 PM
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Seems to me like donkey slowplayed his flopped flush then realized you might be drawing...I played with this guy last night and while he was relatively tight, he was definitely donkish postflop.
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Old 08-06-2007, 08:27 PM
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Default Re: wtf how could you possibly have me beat

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I would bet/call the turn, but check/call all in is close enough for me too.

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ARE YOU [censored] SERIOUS? WHAT MORE DO YOU NEED TO SEE.

THIS THREAD IS TILTING ME.

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Altghough I think a fold is prob best, your range shows we have 34% equity and we only need 37% to call. So if some people think his range is just 1 or 2 hands wider, then its pretty close
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