HAL LUBARSKY. BLIND MAN TO GO ALL THE WAY - Page 2

SossMan · #11 07-13-2007, 10:32 AM

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Wow you guys are dicks. The guy is f-ing blind. Give him a break. Do you really think this is some blind poker strategy expert and his tell-master prodigy assistant teaming up to gain an unfair advantage? Oh, and sory you were so grossed out by the guy with no arms. He should definitely not be allowed in a casino.

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seriously, wtf?
I can gaurantee you that that guy's feet were cleanter than 99% of poker players' cum stained hands.

Bdidd · #12 07-13-2007, 10:37 AM

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Wow you guys are dicks. The guy is f-ing blind. Give him a break. Do you really think this is some blind poker strategy expert and his tell-master prodigy assistant teaming up to gain an unfair advantage? Oh, and sory you were so grossed out by the guy with no arms. He should definitely not be allowed in a casino.

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seriously, wtf?
I can gaurantee you that that guy's feet were cleanter than 99% of poker players' cum stained hands.

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I LOLed

ACG2x · #13 07-13-2007, 10:39 AM

If Harrah's did ban him from playing, they could be getting a call from the ACLU or some other such group due to violation of some part of the Americans with Disabilites Act. If the guy has 10K and wants to put it up to play and only requires "reasonable accomodations", then Harrah's has to let him play.

Having a person sit behind him and tell him his hole cards and the action while revealing nothing else is a reasonable accomodation. Letting a guy pick up his cards with his feet instead of his hands is absolutely a reasonable accomodation.

Plus the PR Harrah's would get if they said no when the blind guy already had his own reasonable accomodation lined up (i.e.- he brought his own hole card reader) is way outweighed by just letting him play.

Now if the guy signed up and said Harrah's had to provide him with a hole card reader or something like that, I can see them saying no.

zerocarb · #14 07-13-2007, 10:39 AM

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Wow you guys are dicks. The guy is f-ing blind. Give him a break. Do you really think this is some blind poker strategy expert and his tell-master prodigy assistant teaming up to gain an unfair advantage? Oh, and sory you were so grossed out by the guy with no arms. He should definitely not be allowed in a casino.

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nh, sir.

hamsamich · #15 07-13-2007, 10:53 AM

AC...I totally agree that Harrah's let him play to avoid bad press. To be fair, what about the one player per hand rule? As gross as I think the guy reading his cards with his feet was, at least he was able to play his own hand with no assistance. If the blind guy can get someone to tell him his cards why couldn't that poor bastard get someone to tell him what his cards were instead of flashing his nutsak to everyone at the table every hand?

Jeff76 · #16 07-13-2007, 10:56 AM

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But you can't speak a foreign language at the table and you can't have an IPhone, but someone can whisper in your ear what other players are doing and possibly how to play your hand?

[/ QUOTE ]Are you seriously worried that this guy is cheating somehow? IPhones and foreign languages are banned to prevent people from having information they shouldn't- do you really think Lubarsky is playing with information he shouldn't have? How is he gaining this extra information- it's not like his assistant is privy to more information than anyone else.

nvarner · #17 07-13-2007, 11:02 AM

I'm just saying that rules are rules - there shouldn't be exceptions. This was done to make Harrah's look better and for ESPN to have a nice story for TV. At least the guy with no arms was actually playing his cards without any assistance (except from the dealer moving chips in and out of the pot). I'm not saying he's cheating or that he would.

hamsamich · #18 07-13-2007, 11:06 AM

I totally disagree. Poker is a game played by one person per hand. Any deviation from that gives that player an edge (even if very small) over the other people at the table. I am not saying he is cheating or getting information that is not available to the other players, but the way in which his hand is being played *could* provide him with an edge that is not available to the other players. He has one less thing to concern himself with at the table and that could be developed into an edge.

TMTTR · #19 07-13-2007, 11:42 AM

Personally, I think that the card readers should have been provided by Harrahs and rotated in and out at random times by the TDs. It is not that Lubarsky would or could cheat, it is the appearance of fairness. I don't know the logisitics being used, but other than the precise cards in the blind player's hand, I would think that it would be "more fair" for the reader to announce all other action aloud so everyone heard exactly what the blind player heard.

Aside: I have played low stakes poker with a guy who was legally blind in Atlantic City. He was able to see his own cards, but had to hold them up to his face. The dealer would announce the board cards and the action to the entire table so that everyone heard the same information. The player sat in the one seat so that he could hear the dealer clearly over the other sounds of the poker room. He wasn't very good anyway...

Jack Bando · #20 07-13-2007, 11:46 AM

How about they just record what the reader says?

"The guy in seat 2 is named Mike, he folded." okay
"Mike scrunched his eyebrows when the flop came out." okay
"Mike's probably got you beat." no.